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Re: Two sisters but no parents!!!
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 17 April 13 14:43 BST (UK) »
Thank you so much senteacher, silvery, and aghadowey for all that information.
Obviously the girls parents had left them with the staff while they themselves were at their parents home (Seems to be the type of thing the "upper class" did!
I do know that Henry Whitworth (Harry) was going to marry Dorothie, but she died in 1900 and he married her sister Cicely instead as the parents wanted the two brewery families to merge. Sadly Cicely died quite young too.
I think you definitely have the correct parents as Sarah Darley's maiden name was Bladworth, and I have a letter that says Cicely's son Henry Percival was brought up by his father and Phemie Bladworth. (Possibly a great aunt?)
So once again I thank you all - I was born in Rotherham and had heard of the Whitworth and Darley breweries, but never imagined my son was going to marry one of their descendants!!
Pauline
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Re: Two sisters but no parents!!!
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 17 April 13 14:44 BST (UK) »
Wow! Thanks MargP. That's a wonderful item to get hold of. I'll be ordering it!!!
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Re: Two sisters but no parents!!!
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 17 April 13 15:00 BST (UK) »
Did you ever get the 1907 marriage certificate for Cicely Darley and Harry Whitworth?

On the free 1911
Henry is 40 b 1870
Wendy dau 2 b 1909
Cicely 27 b 1884


Looking for Henry/Harry Whitworth b Yorkshire in 1881 two show up, neither is of a brewery family.  One is born 1870  father William 38 engineer, and the other 1873 father Edward a mechanic (SsMm ) b 1846.

Taking Yorkshire out doesn't seem to help. 
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Re: Two sisters but no parents!!!
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 17 April 13 15:01 BST (UK) »
You will probably find more Wills for Charles family

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Re: Two sisters but no parents!!!
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 17 April 13 15:31 BST (UK) »

Looking for Henry/Harry Whitworth b Yorkshire in 1881 two show up, neither is of a brewery family.  One is born 1870  father William 38 engineer, and the other 1873 father Edward a mechanic (SsMm ) b 1846.


He may be the son of Spedding Whitworth, who in 1871 was a maltster in Wath upon Dearne with a 1 yr old son Henry b Bradford: RG10/4710/26/13.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Two sisters but no parents!!!
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 17 April 13 15:39 BST (UK) »
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Re: Two sisters but no parents!!!
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 17 April 13 15:44 BST (UK) »
I have a letter that says Cicely's son Henry Percival was brought up by his father and Phemie Bladworth. (Possibly a great aunt?)

Phemie looks likely to be Euphemia Edith, b abt 1865 Scotland, wife of (Sarah's brother) Thomas Bladworth b 1857 Whitgift.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Two sisters but no parents!!!
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 17 April 13 16:43 BST (UK) »
Thanks once more to everyone, and also avm228 for your info.
Yes, Spedding Whitworth was Henry's father, and on either Henry's birth certificate, or baptismal record we have him as Henry Whitworth Wade. Speddings wife possibly couldn't have children, and young Henry's mother was actually Annie Wade, a maid at the house. There is a note to say she was paid £100 to give sole care of Henry to Spedding and his wife Mary. This whole family was a very interesting one! Thanks everyone for helping me put more information on the tree
Pauline
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Re: Two sisters but no parents!!!
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 17 April 13 16:51 BST (UK) »
Hi silvery - I just looked up that Rotherham site you gave me, and it was fantastic. Spedding's son Henry was a very fortunate man - his father left him £110,00!!!
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