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Robert Kennedy 1901 Census
« on: Wednesday 17 April 13 09:06 BST (UK) »
Hi all I am new to this site but seems very useful.
I am looking for my wife's Great Grandfather in the 1901 Census. He appears in the 1881 Census with wife and family but only his wife and family in 1901. However i have the following which leads me to think that he may well have been in Barnhill Poorhouse Glasgow.

He died fairly young, in 1902, 1st January at 6am in the Barnhill Poorhouse aged 48. Death registered by Thos Chisholm Asst. Governor 9th January 1902.

Reference 644/3, Year 1902, Parish Dennistoun, Entry 69
Name   Robert Kennedy, Stableman, married to Mary Martin   
Date/Place   1st January 1902, 6am, Barnhill Poorhouse, Glasgow   
Sex/Age   Male, 48   
Father   Thomas Kennedy, Labourer, deceased   
Mother   Mary Kennedy, maiden surname Kerr, deceased   
Cause   Bronchitis & Cardiac Disease   
Informant   Thos (unclear) Chisholm, Asst,. Governor   
Registered   9th January 1902

Any help from someone who has access to the census as it does seem to be in FindMyPast. Also I understand that there should be Poorhouse record for Robert which would be great to have.

Thanks in anticipation
Rod in Australia

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Re: Robert Kennedy 1901 Census
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 17 April 13 17:01 BST (UK) »
Hi and welcome

None of the possible 1901 entries match to his occ shown on the death cert

Where was he born?

Can you provide details of the names/birthplaces/birthyears of any of his children so we can check earlier censuses for him
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Re: Robert Kennedy 1901 Census
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 17 April 13 21:17 BST (UK) »
Hi Rod. Welcome from me too  :)

Poor relief records are not available online unfortunately.The Mitchell Library in Glasgow holds the main collection (although some original poor relief records have moved around within the Lanarkshire archives). These archives need to be searched in person on site.Someone here on RC may be able to do a search for you when they next visit the Mitchell Library or you could contact the library direct and make enquires, see www.glasgowlife.org.uk/libraries/the-mitchell-library/Pages/home.aspx

A series of films on the collections held by the Mitchell Library avaible to view online. In particular, parts 5 & 6 cover their poor relief records. See www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,522720.0.html

A little here on Barnhill, if you haven't come across this link, www.workhouses.org.uk/Barony/

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Re: Robert Kennedy 1901 Census
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 17 April 13 23:08 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the replies. I hope i am doing this reply correctly.

There is a slight difference in birth year as he was given as 19 when married guessing his birth month could have been after the marriage month of July. There is also a variation in the 81 and 91 census. 

1881 census at 32 St Andrews Square,City, Glasgow
RG number: RG11      Piece: 6445      Folio:  56      Page:  26

KENNEDY, Robert    Head    Married     M    24    1857 Partick   Carrage Driver
KENNEDY, Mary     Wife    Married     F    26    1855 Glasgow   
KENNEDY, Robert    Son        M    4    1877 Glasgow   
KENNEDY, James C    Son        M    3mths    1881 Glasgow   
   

1891Census Year , Parish Dennistoun, Glasgow, Ref 644/3, Enum Book 30, Page 15
Address - 43 Ladywell Street Glasgow
 
KENNEDY, Robert        Head      Mar      M      36         1855 Partick Renfrewshire   Hackney Carriage Driver
KENNEDY, Mary            Wife       Mar      F       37         1854 Glasgow   
KENNEDY, James         Son           M      10         1881Glasgow    Scholar
KENNEDY, William        Son           M        7         1884 Glasgow   Scholar
KENNEDY, Ephriam      Son           M        3         1888 Glasgow


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Re: Robert Kennedy 1901 Census
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 17 April 13 23:19 BST (UK) »
Hi

Thanks for the extra info.  Unfortunately - despite all my usual search methods, I can't find him.  I also tried the English, Welsh & Irish 1901
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Re: Robert Kennedy 1901 Census
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 18 April 13 01:50 BST (UK) »
Carole were you able to find the Barnhill 1901 census would it be possible to let me see it, as I could not using FindMyPast.
If he was not there in 1901 where was he I wonder. 

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Re: Robert Kennedy 1901 Census
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 18 April 13 08:32 BST (UK) »
There were 1377 inmates at the Barnhill Poorhouse for 1901. Four are Kennedy, none are a Robert.

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Re: Robert Kennedy 1901 Census
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 18 April 13 18:30 BST (UK) »
Hi

The WH was also used as a hospital in those days so he may only have been admitted there a short time before his death. 

Still doesn't help with where he was at the time of the census though

Have you seen this

http://www.workhouses.org.uk/Barony/
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Re: Robert Kennedy 1901 Census
« Reply #8 on: Friday 19 April 13 08:30 BST (UK) »
Yes Carole I had seen that link to WH but although interesting does not help, but thanks anyway.
Just a thought could he have been in the Glasgow Royal Infirmary at the time of the 1901 Census.
Is it possible to look at that do you think.