George Thomas

[BegClonrode ....]

George Thomas died 1878

Hello...

Isn't that 1978 or am I looking at the wrong website - Belfast/Roselawn/Dundonald Cemeteries

Regards
Beg

[aghadowey]

Oops, yes. Up all night with a sick child and didn't notice date was 100 years too late 

[BegClonrode ....]

Hi again...

Am still playing around with the notations. They're more than likely red herrings but who knows.

Carrying on the Supreme Court of Judicature idea I mentioned earlier, PRONI has lots of SCJ records. I don't suppose you'll be in Belfast anytime soon

Archive Title - PRONI Reference Prefix

Appeal Records, Supreme Court of Judicature - APP
Bankruptcy Records, Supreme Court of Judicature - BANK
Chancery Division Records, Supreme Court of Judicature - CH
Judgements, Supreme Court of Judicature - JGT
King’s Bench Division Records, Supreme Court of Judicature - KB
Matrimonial Office, Supreme Court of Judicature - MAT
Miscellaneous records, Supreme Court of Judicature - MISC
List of non-departmental public records held by PRONI
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0tjq/

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More than likely wishful thinking on my part linking the SCJ and George's discharge papers (it is). So I won't be offended if you just file this away for another day

Regards
Beg

Edit by Moderator at request of original poster.

[Tiki1962]

Thanks Aghadowey and Beg.  I will wait and see if anyone can help with the notations before scouring Ireland's records. That certainly is a comprehensive list to use. I thought he had stayed in NZ after he was medically discharged, until you pointed out the notations - one should never presume. He had three children from what I could find and they were Alfred Huett, Catherine Thomas (born 1857)and Agnes Ellen Thomas (born 1855). There may be more but that's all I could find in the India records and the family sailed to NZ in 1861. Thanks again 

[BegClonrode ....]

Hi again...

Have you traced the two daughters, Agnes and Catherine.

Just wondering as I saw an Agnes WARD m.s THOMAS d.1912 aged 57 (BDM website) or 58 (Death Notice on PP website). Buried at Purewa in Auckland with husband John.

Name, age and location sort of fits. Might be worth looking at unless, of course, you've already traced the daughters.

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Lots of lookers but no takers on the Armed Forces thread. Bit of a nuisance

Regards
Beg

[Tiki1962]

Thanks Beg, I was thinking of tracing down this line to contact a very distant relative.  out of curiosity where did you find the information that showed the maiden name? For future reference for me 
Tiki

[BegClonrode ....]

Hi Tiki...

The maiden name is mentioned in the 1930 obit for John WARD.

No guarantee it's your Agnes. She may just be a namesake

Papers Past - Auckland Star - 14 November 1930 - Page 9
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0tlt/

Regards
Beg

[Tiki1962]

Thanks Beg. It's worth travelling that road as the ages are correct and it is the best lead I have! I have found the 3 sons and 2 daughters mentioned in the article and their marriages. So I will try to trace the descendants. I did that with another branch of the family and hit gold. I met a distant cousin and have now a photo of my great. X 3 grandfather! All this from the generous help of Roots chatters  you have been so generous with your help, it is appreciated.
Thanks again Tiki

[BegClonrode ....]

Hello Tiki...

Was looking through Archway and came across the following....

Imperial Pension Accounts  - 1865 to 1891
www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewEntity.do?code=17399

If you click on "MORE INFORMATION & INDEX" it describes soldiers in NZ receiving a pension. It covers the right timeframe so maybe George is mentioned.

The finding aid says "The names of persons receiving pensions that are contained in these registers are indexed into the General Biographical Card Index [BIO 1] located in Archives New Zealand, Wellington Office reading room.

Maybe ask for a look-up of the Card Index to see if George is mentioned.

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Have also been looking at lots of notations on lots of discharge papers on FindMyPast, cos it's free at the moment

Here's page 4 of George's discharge papers, to which I linked earlier.

THOMAS, George - Page 4 of discharge papers
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0tj6/

Famous last words but as I read it the second notation on George's discharge paper places him in Belfast in 1878 (or 1876...can't quite tell). The bit that looks like "cau of S.C.J.2 Belfast" is actually shorthand for "care of the Staff Officer of Pensions, Belfast 2nd District". This is the officer who doles out the pension money to the soldiers living in his district. There were two payment districts in Belfast, thirty three in total in Ireland.

I'll make a reply to your post on the Army board and explain a bit further.

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A slight flaw in the Belfast theory is that there doesn't really seem to be a corresponding 1878 or later death in the Belfast area. There is one possible death in 1901 but if he's the chap mentioned in the 1901 Irish census then his census details are wrong. So keep in mind that George may well have returned to the Belfast area but it's as likely he didn't and I've got it wrong.

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Would you mind if I started an associated TNA look-up thread on the London board. Not 100% sure what I'm asking for. Something to do with pensions. It could all go horribly wrong so I'd prefer not to involve you directly

Regards
Beg