james Charles FROST OR Charles Edward FROST

[susanguyatt]

CAN ANYBODY look up for me church records or birth cert of above
James Charles FROST reg Jun qtr 1878 Alverstoke ref 2b 530

His father should be Charles FROST his mother should be Elizabeth Frances Stagg
He is my grand father
He was known as Charles Edward FROST

Charles Edward FROST reg Mar qtr 1878 Newton Abbot ref 5b 147

OR this could be him
Charles FROST reg Jun qtr 1878 Tiverton ref 5b 451

any ideas
susan

[rosie99]

Hi

We would need to know what church the christening took place. Birth certificates have to be purchased.

I am a bit confused with your post, I presume that you are trying to establish which is your 'Frost'
Perhaps if you give us more information and tell us where you have him on census we can track it for you.

Rosie

[rosie99]

Just spotted the parent details you have given
His father should be Charles FROST his mother should be Elizabeth Frances Stagg
He is my grand father
He was known as Charles Edward FROST

Charles Francis Frost & Elizabeth married in Alverstoke June qtr 1865 as per freebmd
Frost    Charles Francis        
Stagg    Elizabeth Frances       
Alverstoke    2b   777   

[bearkat]

Kightroots the online parish clerk for Hampshire has some transcriptions for Alverstoke.  I couldn't see a baptism for Charles but found this daughter of Charles & Elizabeth

http://www.knightroots.co.uk/

Gosport Methodist Church
March 12 1884 at Hardway Mabel Maud daughter of Charles & Elizabeth Frances FROST Chapel St Gosport born 13 January 1884

[rosie99]

Is this him in 1881 living in Alverstoke 
Elizabeth Frost   36 Married wife of Seaman bn Alverstoke
Mary A. Frost   13 bn Alverstoke
Julia E. Frost   10 bn Portland
Rosaline Frost   9 bn Alverstoke
James C. Frost   3 bn Alverstoke

[susanguyatt]

Descendants of James Frost


Generation No. 1

1.  JAMES FROST was born 1813 in Taunton devon, and died Aft. April 1861 in Taunton devon.  He married LUCY MADOCKS CHAPMAN Bet. 1832 - 1838 in Taunton,Devon.  She was born Bet. 1812 - 1814 in somerset, Taunton devon, and died 1892 in Somerset, Taunton,Devon.

Notes for JAMES FROST:
1841 James age 20  carpenter & Wife Lucy age 25 milliner with son charles age 2 living at High Street, St Mary Magdalen, Taunton
1841 living at  High Street, St Mary Magdalen, Taunton James age 28 carpenter Lucy age 25 milliner,Charles age 2
1851 James age 39 a carpenter with wife Lucy age 39 dressmaker  children 3 sons Charles age 11,Francis age 4   James age 9, daughter Julia   age1 living at  Victoria Place, Saint Mary Magdalen, Taunton, Borough Of Taunton
1861 James age 48 a carpenter & Lucy age 49 with 2 sons charles age 22  general labourer & Francis age 12 errand boy & daughter Julia age 10,
scholar living at 1, Locks Buildings, Church Square, St Mary Magdalen

Baptism could be
James Frost son of George (labourer) & Isabella Frost bapt 30 Jun 1816 Tiverton

Death
James FROST Jun qtr 1861 Taunton ref 5C 272


Notes for LUCY MADOCKS CHAPMAN:
1871 She is a widow age 60 living with francis age 24 her son Shuttern Rice's Court, Taunton St Mary Magdalen
1881 she is a widow age 69 living at 31, James Street, Taunton St James  parish relief arms house
1891 widow age 79 dressmaker living at  31 St James Street, Taunton St James, Taunton
Death
Lucy FROST aged 78 Jun qtr 1892 Taunton  ref 5C  236

   
Children of JAMES FROST and LUCY CHAPMAN are:
2.   i.   CHARLES FROST, b. Bet. 1839 - 1842, Taunton devon; d. 16 March 1894, Plumstead Kent.
   ii.   JAMES FROST, b. 1842, Taunton devon.

Notes for JAMES FROST:
1861 James was a Patient  in marine infirmery in East Stonehouse Devon
1871 James was age 28 on Minotaur in  Royal Navy Spithead Hampshire England
1881 James was age 39 on Indus  Ship
 

3.   iii.   FRANCIS CHAPMAN FROST, b. 1846, Taunton devon.
   iv.   JULIA FROST, b. 1850, Taunton devon.


Generation No. 2

2.  CHARLES FROST (JAMES) was born Bet. 1839 - 1842 in Taunton devon, and died 16 March 1894 in Plumstead Kent.  He married (1) ELIZABETH FRANCES STAGG 13 April 1865 in Alverstoke Southampton, daughter of THOMAS STAGG and MARTHA STAINES.  She was born 5 June 1845 in Alverstoke Southampton, and died 1884 in Alverstoke, Southampton.  He married (2) ELIZABETH ANN STAFFORD 28 September 1884 in Alverstoke ,Southampton, daughter of WILLIAM STAFFORD.  She was born Abt. 1864 in Plumstead Kent.

Notes for CHARLES FROST:
After his wife Elizabeth Stag died in 1884 possibly giving birth to Mabel
He remarried on 28 September 1884 Alverstoke Southampton to Elizabeth STAFFORD age 28 born 1856  spinster domestic living at Blackheath on his next daughters  cerificate in 1890 Elizabeth Julia Frances FROST father Charles James FROST( labourer in gun factory)  mother Elizabeth Ann STAFFORD living at 56 tewson Road Plumpstead woolwich
Probate FROST Charles of 48 Tewson road cage lane Plumstead Kent  died 16 march 1894 probate London 18th april 1894 to Elizabeth ann Frost widow effects of £250. 11shillings & 8pence

1871 census living at Queens row in weymouth with wife Elizabeth Frances  nee Stagg & children Lucy age 5 ,Mary age 3,
Emily 11 months

1881 census living at 7 Chapel street charles was away at sea on S S DIDO She had children Mary A age 13 , Julia E age 10,
Rosaline age 9 James C  age 3

1891 census living at 48 Tewson road with wife now Elizabeth Ann nee Stafford children Charles J age 12, Mabel age 7
Elizabeth j age 6 months



Notes for ELIZABETH FRANCES STAGG:
1881 living at 7, Chapel Street, Alverstoke with Mary A age 13, Julia E age 10, Rosaline age 9 James O or C age 3

Notes for ELIZABETH ANN STAFFORD:
1901 census charles had died Elizabeth was living at 48, Tewson Road, Plumstead  with children Mabel age17, Elizabeth age 10,Francis age 8 , Alfred age 2

   
Children of CHARLES FROST and ELIZABETH STAGG are:
   i.   LUCY FRANCIS3 FROST, b. 1866, Hardway, Hants; d. 1874, Alverstoke, Southampton.
   ii.   MARY A FROST, b. 1868, Hardway, Hants.
   iii.   EMILY FROST, b. 1869, Chard Portland, Dorset.
   iv.   ROSALINE LOUISA FROST, b. 1872, Alverstoke, Southampton.
4.   v.   CHARLES EDWARD FROST, b. 20 March 1878, Alverstoke, gosport Southampton; d. 22 March 1966, Faversham Kent. MY GRANDFATHER
   vi.   JULIA E FROST, b. 1880, Portland, Dorset.
5.   vii.   MABEL MAUD FROST, b. 13 January 1884, Hardway Gosport Portsmouth,Hampshire.

   
Children of CHARLES FROST and ELIZABETH STAFFORD are:
   viii.   ELIZABETH JULIA FRANCES3 FROST, b. 17 September 1890, Plumstead woolwich london.
   ix.   FRANCIS WILLIAM FROST, b. 1893, Plumstead Kent.

Notes for FRANCIS WILLIAM FROST:
1911 censue living at 19 Kentmere Road Plumstead S E  with his married sister Mabel maud bush

   x.   ALFRED FROST, b. 1899, Plumstead Kent.

susan

[susanguyatt]

CANT SEEM TO SEND ATTACHMENT
3.  FRANCIS CHAPMAN2 FROST (JAMES1) was born 1846 in Taunton devon.  He married JANE GODFREY Abt. 1876 in Taunton,Devon.  She was born 1848 in Taunton devon.

Notes for FRANCIS CHAPMAN FROST:
1861living with parents james & Lucy at 1, Locks Buildings, Church Square, St Mary Magdalen
1871 living with his mother he was age 24 at Shuttern Rice's Court, Taunton St Mary Magdalen
1881  Living at 3, Turles Court, Taunton St Mary Magdalen Francis age 33 with wife Jane age 33 & 2 sons Francis age 4 & Charles age2
1901 Francis age 53 wife Jane age 51 living at 21, Court No 1, High Street, Taunton St Mary Magdalen  Francis age 34 & Julia age 15
   
Children of FRANCIS FROST and JANE GODFREY are:
   i.   FRANCIS3 FROST, b. Abt. 1877, Taunton devon.
   ii.   CHARLES FROST, b. 1879, Taunton devon.
   iii.   JAMES FROST, b. 1885, Taunton devon.
   iv.   JULIA FROST, b. 1886, Taunton devon.
   v.   WILLIAM C FROST, b. 1887, Taunton devon.


Generation No. 3

4.  CHARLES EDWARD3 FROST (CHARLES2, JAMES1) my grandfather was born 20 March 1878 in Alverstoke, gosport Southampton, and died 22 March 1966 in Faversham Kent.  He married JOANNA SMITH 7 February 1914 in Faversham Kent, daughter of JOSEPH SMITH and JANE ROBERTS.  She was born 23 March 1891 in Beach Alley. Blean.  Whitstable. Kent, and died 9 November 1977 in Faversham Kent.

Notes for CHARLES EDWARD FROST:
Charles was 35 years old when he married Joanna Smith & was a labourer.
Then in 1917 he was a private in 4th Buffs no 3858( reg number 201247)
in 1919 he was in the S Staffs ( reg number 204752)


1881 census living at 7 Chapel street Alverstoke Hampshire ,Father Charles was away at sea on S S DIDO Living with mother Elizabeth with  sisters  Mary A age 13 , Julia E age 10, Rosaline age 9 James C  age 3

1891 census living at 48 Tewson road Plumstead London ,Father Charles and now wife Elizabeth Ann nee Stafford children  Charles J age 12, Mabel age 7 Elizabeth j age 6 months

1901 census living at 32, Sutcliffe Road, Plumstead London he was a boarder Examiner Explosives age 23

1911 census living at Registered Common Lodging House For Men woolwich london ,  he was labourer age 33 born portmouth
   
Children of CHARLES FROST and JOANNA SMITH are:
6.   i.   FRANK CHARLES4 FROST, b. 8 March 1914, 13a Abbey St. Faversham. Kent; d. 1983.
7.   ii.   GEORGE HENRY EDWARD FROST, b. 8 January 1917, Faversham Kent; d. 19 April 1997, Martlets Hospice Wayfield Ave, Hove Sussex. My father
8.   iii.   ELLEN MAUD FROST, b. 17 February 1919, 13a Abbey St. Faversham. Kent; d. 12 January 2003, Maidstone, Kent, England.
   iv.   RONALD JOSEPH FROST, b. 1929; d. 1929.


5.  MABEL MAUD3 FROST (CHARLES2, JAMES1) was born 13 January 1884 in Hardway Gosport Portsmouth,Hampshire.  She married SYDNEY JAMES BUSH 26 July 1910 in register office, Woolwich, Lambert, son of HARRY BUSH and CATHERINE HUMBLE.  He was born 29 July 1885 in Eltham, Kent.

Notes for SYDNEY JAMES BUSH:
 1911 censue living at 19 Kentmere Road Plumstead S E with john webb a widower Sydney & wife Mabel were boarders also in household her brother Francis William FROST
   
Children of MABEL FROST and SYDNEY BUSH are:
   i.   WILLIAM S4 BUSH, b. 1911, Woolich.
   ii.   MABEL BUSH, b. 1908, Woolwich.

Notes for MABEL BUSH:
mabel was born a FROST as Mabel maud Frost had her before she married sydney bush


SUSAN

[allibaker]

would love to try and help but actually i think i lost the plot half way through 
taunton is in somerset not devon .so maybe if the originator of this post could please just state again exactly what info you are requiring because iam sure iam not the only one that got confused half way through
regards
alli

[allibaker]

Francis Frost marriage
District Taunton, Somerset  4th qtr 1876
Mary Jane Godfrey is bride showing so jane is in fact her middle name not christian name