'Name of Ship' needed

[ezekiel]

Hi Ian,
Just checking in before bed. I couldn't find an Isak Forsstrom arriving in SA on any ship's list . I haven't looked at the RAH records for him...but I should as it may give the ships name, as it did with Erik NYHOLM. I think it likely that this Isak and Johan are the same man...perhaps with a name change and age incorrectly noted somehow...and with Erik having his photo and that of his wife and children taken with the headstone seems to place great significance of some sort between the 2 men.
I shall see if I can do something re verifying it with records in the near future.
Thanks for understanding
Julie

[jamcat95]

On the birth record in 1876 for Erik Nyholm's eldest daughter, Anna Emma (my grandmother), it shows her father as Augustin Nyholm and he was also the informant.

Hi Marlene
I don't understand what you mean here. Who was Augustin Nyholm if Eric was the father?

Ian

[Marlene33]

Thanks both Ian and Julie,

Apologies for the confusion with Erik and Augustin (Anna Emma's father on her birth registration) - they are the same person. It does seem odd to me that Erik would have his name recorded on the registration as Augustin but I guess it adds to the confusion with different names being used as Julie also found it most likely with Isaac/Isak/Johan Forstrom.

Sorry you are still not well Julie but do wish you well in your recovery.  I was in Adelaide this time last year but didn't get to spend as much time on research as I had hoped or get to West Terrace Cemetery to see Erik Nyholm's grave.  Would love to get back there again but won't be this year.

I appreciate the efforts of everyone who has contributed on this topic and I'll keep trying to solve the mysteries.

Marlene

[jamcat95]

A curve ball has come my way tonight as I made contact with a rellie interstate who I have just found via 'detective' work and his bit of news is that Erik may have changed his name...that Nyholm was not actually the name he was born under, but that it was 'RYSS'...but then it got changed again before he came out on the ship to 'RANK'...so he's listed on a ship under the name of 'RANK'...

Hi again,

These 2 words have done it.

Ryss - The village farm he was born.
Rank - His father's name.

I have found an Eric Carlsson born on Ryss Farm in Monå by (Monaby). His father's name was Carl Eriksson Rank and his mother's name was Greta Hansdotter.
The birth date of this Eric is 21 July 1850.....

http://digi.narc.fi/digi/view.ka?kuid=9027625

There was a mention on a Finnish forum of Karl Mattsson being a friend or cousin. There was a mention of Hansdotter being the mother of a Matts and Erik's mother had the same surname Hansdotter.....!

Ian

[Marlene33]

That's great Ian,

I remember reading that thread with Ryss and Rank but didn't think too much about it because of the document showing the ship name as Weidenhielm which to me sounded so much like was in the Adelaide Hospital record.

So would it be right that his father's surname "Rank" is then dropped and he became Eric Carlsson? The birth being in "Monå by" does match the headstone inscription so that seems to make sense.   

I'll have to chase up the Finnish forum for the mention of the possibility of Karl Mattsson and Erik being cousins and a mention of Hansdotter being the mother of a Matts and also Erik's mother's surname.

Would I be right in thinking that is the parents and their 3 children's entry?  Is this a parish entry?  Are the column headings Finnish or Swedish? 

I'd be interested to hear Julie's thoughts but I reckon this sounds pretty much the right family even though on the headstone inscription it shows Erik was born 7 July 1850.

Thanks so much Ian for your digging.
Marlene

[jamcat95]

These are in Swedish and are parish entries in Munsala, Monå village (Monå by - Monaby) of the Ericksson family.

Here is Erik's birth record: http://digi.narc.fi/digi/view.ka?kuid=9029923

Another parish record from 1860: http://digi.narc.fi/digi/view.ka?kuid=9028320

The first record I sent was from 1853.


Ian

[jamcat95]

I am assuming that this is the family of Eric Nyholm.

This is the birth record of his father Carl Eriksson: http://digi.narc.fi/digi/view.ka?kuid=9029514

Note that "Rank" is the name of the farm he came from.

I have noticed on many records that the name of the farms on which they were born were used in their surnames.

Ian

[jamcat95]

Here is a good explanation of how the Finnish naming system worked including farm names etc...

https://familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/Finland_Surnames


Ian

[Marlene33]

Ian,

It is absolutely amazing what you have found - fantastic, and it all seems to make sense but I now need to sit quietly and go right through it all.

Just out of bed and thought I'd quickly check to see if there were any replies so got such a surprise to see the amount of research you have done for us.  A 2nd cousin (granddaughter of Eric Edward, Erik NYHOLM snr's son) and her husband are arriving in town for a few days later today so need to get some chores done.

Thank you so much,
Marlene