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Offline ezekiel

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Re: 'Name of Ship' needed
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 14 April 13 12:38 BST (UK) »
Thanks Cando...I will be heading in there within the next week hopefully and will look for the pieces you have mentioned for this Ship.
Here is the scanned 1881 and 1884 records from the Adelaide Hospital with the relevant column re Name of Ship ...couldn't fit all the page on but have marked with an asterisk next to the relevant piece on the 1881 but then forgot to mark the 1884 the same way, but k=just look for the 'Coppersmith' entry and that is my Erik.
See what you guys make from the handwritten entry...

A curve ball has come my way tonight as I made contact with a rellie interstate who I have just found via 'detective' work and his bit of news is that Erik may have changed his name...that Nyholm was not actually the name he was born under, but that it was 'RYSS'...but then it got changed again before he came out on the ship to 'RANK'...so he's listed on a ship under the name of 'RANK'...WHY DO THEY DO THIS TO US????? ;)
On all the records once he got here he is recorded as NYHOLM...puzzling.
Makes life very interesting, indeed!
Will see what I can find out re this latest bit of info..and let you know if I come up with anything.
Thanks guys...let me know what you make of the handwriting /deciphering...I read it as NAYDELM for the 1881 and WAGENHELM for the 1884...hope you can see them ok.
Cheers for now
Julie
GOURLAY; GRAY; HALLIDAY; WILKINSON; NORRIS; AIKEN/AITKEN; SIMPSON; MAHAREY; FIFE;SUMMERTON/SUMERTON/SOMERTON; MANSFIELD; FATHERS;HARDY/HARDEY; NICKS; WILLIAMS; THOMAS; LUDLOW; SYNNETT and others.

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Re: 'Name of Ship' needed
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 14 April 13 12:41 BST (UK) »
Oops!..managed to get the Scanning thing right but not the bit where I actually remember to post it with my tome above...sorry..here 'tis on second try. :)
GOURLAY; GRAY; HALLIDAY; WILKINSON; NORRIS; AIKEN/AITKEN; SIMPSON; MAHAREY; FIFE;SUMMERTON/SUMERTON/SOMERTON; MANSFIELD; FATHERS;HARDY/HARDEY; NICKS; WILLIAMS; THOMAS; LUDLOW; SYNNETT and others.

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Re: 'Name of Ship' needed
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 14 April 13 13:50 BST (UK) »
They don't look at all alike do they?

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Re: 'Name of Ship' needed
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 14 April 13 13:53 BST (UK) »
The first one looks like Magdeburg
The second one looks like Wannhelm
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Re: 'Name of Ship' needed
« Reply #22 on: Monday 15 April 13 03:02 BST (UK) »
The first one:
First letter is W, I think?
Compare to 'Waiter', 'Washerwoman' and is unlike the M is Mason
It looks like Waydelhom?

The last letter is a m (could be an n)?
The writer appears to like a bit of a flourish on occasion when writing these letters:
Compare: the words 'Durham', Washerwoman to

The second:
Harder to make out as the quality is not so good  but agree with Shaun it looks more like Wannhelm - except, I am sure there is a 'tailed letter in abt 3rd spot?

Which takes us back to Wayenhelm or Wagenhelm that you first said, Julie  ;D  ;D  ;D

A scan of the original, as opposed to photocopies might help, if you could get that.

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Re: 'Name of Ship' needed
« Reply #23 on: Monday 15 April 13 05:52 BST (UK) »
The closest I can get is the "Wandrahm" a Barque from Hamburg arrived Sydney Jan 1871 after leaving Adelaide.

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Ward, Pridden, Swabey, Haslegrave, (Surrey) Simpson, Cull (Middlesex) Searby (Lincolnshire) Hobbs (Berkshire) Lally, McNamara, McGrath, Manion, (Ireland) Spencer, Mayo, Collender (Somerset, Gloucestershire)

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Re: 'Name of Ship' needed
« Reply #24 on: Monday 15 April 13 06:25 BST (UK) »
The "Wandrahm" barque out of Hamburg arrived Sydney via Adelaide, Jan, 1871.

Regards, Kate
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Ward, Pridden, Swabey, Haslegrave, (Surrey) Simpson, Cull (Middlesex) Searby (Lincolnshire) Hobbs (Berkshire) Lally, McNamara, McGrath, Manion, (Ireland) Spencer, Mayo, Collender (Somerset, Gloucestershire)

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Re: 'Name of Ship' needed
« Reply #25 on: Monday 15 April 13 06:30 BST (UK) »
Hmmm, good find Kate! 

Can find the manifest Adelaide to Sydney (which he's not on of course!)
http://mariners.records.nsw.gov.au/1871/01/054wan.htm

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AMBLY
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Re: 'Name of Ship' needed
« Reply #26 on: Monday 15 April 13 07:14 BST (UK) »
Have you checked the archives, State Records Sth Aust?

Administration and Probate Act
and
Inland Revenue

As there is a file about him in each section.

Kate
Ward, Pridden, Swabey, Haslegrave, (Surrey) Simpson, Cull (Middlesex) Searby (Lincolnshire) Hobbs (Berkshire) Lally, McNamara, McGrath, Manion, (Ireland) Spencer, Mayo, Collender (Somerset, Gloucestershire)
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