Jacob Robins of Cawston, Norfolk

[Meslc]

Hello

My maternal 6th Gt. Grandfather (Jacob Robins) brings up his large family in the Parish of Cawston between the years 1732-51 with he himself being buried in the St. Agnes' churchyard in August 1758.  I know he married a Mary Brettingham in Norwich in July 1730.  My Robins family in Norfolk on the whole seem to have a non-conformist thread running through them - they seem to dip in and out of baptising children either in a chapel or a church!  Though I can find his children baptised and his wife I cannot find Jacob anywhere.  I feel quite certain from the date on his grave that he is born around 1709-10.  He may have connection to a family called Shalders who originate from Worstead, Norfolk and again baptised either in the chapel (at Bradfield) or the church?  I think Jacob  originates maybe from around here or Norwich but I could be wrong? 

Jacob died intestate but some of his sons left Wills and they centre around a Mill in Cawston.  They were either bakers or millers... so perhaps Jacob owned the Mill and passed it down to his sons.  I think he was either a baker or a miller too?

Any other Robins out there with a connection to this family?  I know that one of Jacob daughter's married into a family called Scrull (Reepham) and her husband a Robert Scrull was a baker.

Thanks.
Meslc

[trish1120]

JACOB Robins Baptised 07 Feb 1668/69, St Giles, Norwich, Norfolk, Parents, WILLIAM/MARY

This Jacob possibly Baptised;
ELIZTH Robins, 13 July 1695, St Gregory, Norwich, Parents JACOB/MARY
FEMALE Robins, St Mary, Baconsthorpe
 (Memorandum. that JACOB Robins has a daughter unbaptised that was born July ; transcribers note: listed with Dissenter baptisms, year not given but listed between 1705 & 1709)
JACOB c 1710 would fit in here.

(Jacob/Mary nee Brettinghams Childrens Baptisms/Burials are on there also but without ages, you might like to cross check against the Site below, Doun.Org, that is if you havent already sighted the original registers)

Source of above info FreeREG
www.freereg.org.uk

BAPTISM;
MARY Robins, Wife of JACOB Baptised 1736 Cawston

MARRIAGES, Cawston;
1758   ROBINS Brettingham to RAINGER Sarah
1760   SEWEL or JEWEL Robert to   ROBINS Sarah

BURIALS, Cawston;
1734   ROBINS Mary, 15   
1735   ROBINS Brettingham, 5   
1735   ROBINS Elizabeth, 21
1737   ROBINS Jacob, 11
1738   ROBINS Elizabeth, 23   
1740   ROBINS Jacob, 21   
1744   ROBINS William, 11   
1750   ROBINS Mary, 7   
1752   ROBINS James (no age given)
Now all of these have Parents as JACOB/MARY

So could all the ones born pre 1730 be Siblings of JACOB who Married Mary Brettingham?

Other BURIALS, Cawston;
1758   ROBINS Jacob, age 28   

Source, http://www.doun.org/transcriptions/index.php


Trish
   

[Meslc]

Hi Trish

Thank you for taking the time to do some 'researching' on my behalf.  I do know of 'freereg' but never seem to be able to get on with it so have never looked for a Jacob Robins there.   What you discovered re a Jacob being baptised in a Norwich Church in 1668/69 as a possible father to my Jacob is very interesting. Also as you say that Jacob then going onto baptise a child(ren) within the period my Jacob was born is even more of note 

From the burials you have of my Jacob's children in Cawston churchyard their names all link back to being family names BUT of course they are also names that would have been very popular in the 18th century.   Thank you for all information too.  Having access to the registers via the NRO project is amazing but sadly Norwich doesn't seem to be covered as well as the villages away from the city.  A visit to the NRO is a must to discover what they hold re the city churches/non-conformist chapels... I am only in Essex so a a summer train ride is on the cards

I do appreciate your help.

Deborah

[trish1120]

Your welcome. I wish I was in England to follow up a few of my Ancestors. Good luck with the Trip

[The Yokel]

Hi Mesic

Have you seen this site on Norfolk Mills

http://www.norfolkmills.co.uk/Windmills/cawston-smockmill.html

yokel

[Meslc]

Hi Yokel

Thank you for the link to Norfolk Windmills and ultimately the link to the Smockmill at Cawston.  Yes I am aware of this site... Jacob Robins' son Brettingham Robins leaves this mill to some of his children in his Will dated 1782.  Sadly as Jacob died 'intestate' I have no way of knowing if he owned the mill first and then Brettingham too over it on Jacob's death in 1758. 

It is Jacob who hasn't left any clues behind!

Meslc

[Yorkslass]

Hello Meslc,

I had a look at the Norfolk Marriage Bonds on the Family Search website and struck lucky as 1730 was one of the few indexed - found Jacob and Mary.

It isn't easy to read, but shows that Jacob was of the parish of St Martin Coslany and a Baker.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-12880-35789-68?cc=1824690&wc=6892900

Yorkslass

[Meslc]

Hi Yorkslass

A huge thank you for your looking into the Norfolk Marriage Bonds for me.  I am familiar with the Family Search website but 'missed' the Marriage Bonds somehow.  What a find... it proves what I had begun to think that Jacob Robins hails from Norwich, Mary I know was baptised in Honing in Norfolk.  Plus the confirmation that he too was a baker makes it even more likely that he did come out to Cawston a few years after his marriage probably to buy and work the Smockmill there.  As you said it is a little difficult to read but what I needed confirming is clearly visible. 

At least it will now be worth my while searching the baptismal records of St. Mary's Coslany to see if Jacob was baptised there?  Also I have a first child from that marriage that is not baptised in Cawston (though she is buried there in 1735) so again I can now check the parish records of St. Saviour (as her parents married there) to see if she is there.  I think many of the Norwich parish records are not accessible (yet) online but I am only in Essex so a visit on the train to Norwich and its record office is 'do-able'

Once again thank you for your help

Meslc

[Meslc]

Hi Yorklass

Opps typo I did mean St. Michael's, Coslany not St. Mary's - two very different churches!

Meslc