Sarah Hall of Diss, born about 1830

[WilliamKane]

No.  She was born in Diss, Norfolk according to the census records.

[WilliamKane]

No, wait I'm wrong about that. Sarah was born there but I don't know where Rachel was born.

[WilliamKane]

It seems she may have been born there too in around 1801, however the sources aren't the most reliable. 

[bendywendy]

Ok familysearch again, I have searched this way:
Rachel Todd
Birthplace, left that blank
Dates between 1790-1810
this is what I have found, so most likely is your Rachel Todd

Rachel Todd
Father: Samuel Todd
Mother: Rachel Smith
Christening: 2 entries both different dates 15 or 16 June 1802
Diss, Norfolk
Index:  I04140-3
System: England-EASy
Film: 1596390
Ref ID: item 22

 Diss, 1551-1915 - Church of England. Parish Church of Diss (Norfolk); Norfolk and Norwich Record Office, Norwich, England

[WilliamKane]

Wow Wendy, that's great! Especially with you finding a Smith in there.    Ha ha

Still, it opens up an English branch of the family, which should be easier to research than our Irish ancestors!

Thanks again Wendy. xxx

[bendywendy]

Your welcome, pleased to have helped you   
Have fun with the Smiths 

I think they forgot to baptise Sarah and it came to light many years later or records had been destroyed/damaged/lost and they choose to have her re-baptised.

Wendy

[WilliamKane]

Ha ha, well there's the rub you see. Sarah married William Kane (a Catholic) in Gateshead. The records for the wedding are missing however. She must have been baptised as a Catholic before marrying William.

[bendywendy]

Are you absolutely certain they married at Gateshead:

William Kean & Sarah Hall @ Marylebone Sep Q 1854 - you need to check this one out with census and births etc., to see if these are a different couple

Have you found William Cane/Kane etc on 1851 cen

On familysearch there are baptism's for children to William Kane & Sarah Hall - William Cain & Sarah Hall Cain, Gulielmi Cain & Sara Hall Cain all at St Mary, Newcastle upon Tyne and dau Sarah 1854 is baptised too along with Thomas 1855, Joannes 1871, Maria Ann 1857.

There is also listed a marriage for a Sarah Hale Kane to Thomas Hedderly at Christ Church, Newcastle upon Tyne 13 Nov 1872 her birth being 1854.

b.

[WilliamKane]

Erm, erm, I'm pretty sure.  That's a lot of information you have there. I'll need to digest it properly and do some checking. My cousin found that one at Marylebone a few months back but we ruled it out simply for geographical reasons. They had to meet somewhere however and London is as good a place as any.

The "Newcastle angle" intrigues me. Sarah lived in Newcastle before she was married, as a lodger I seem to recall.

All in all, there's quite a bit to look at tomorrow. I'll "chew the fat" with my cousin and get back to you then.

Thanks for now. xx