Sarah Hall of Diss, born about 1830

[WilliamKane]

The said Sarah was my Great Great Grandmother. The trouble being whilst doing some research into her children, I was advised that maybe, her eldest child, also called Sarah was from an earlier marriage. I can't find any record of her Roman Catholic baptism which would have taken place in C.1854, hence the confusion.
Now Sarah Hall lived in Gateshead (Co.Durham, at the time), as indeed do I.  I have no idea when she moved up here but it seems to have been as a child. That dear reader, is where you come in........
Her father was called Michael and her mother Rachael, nee Todd, we think! Can you help me find any records of Sarah's birth? All I have is what I've already stated, born Diss, Norfolk C.1830.

I really would be eternally grateful for any help you can give. Thank you in anticipation.

[lizdb]

What is her marred name? (Assuming Hall is her maiden name)

Is she the Sarah Birch on 1861 census?  Married to Leonard Birch Bn Diss, living in Coxhoe Durham.

If so, there doesn't seem to be a child Sarah bn 1854 , at least not with them.

[WilliamKane]

No, her married name was Sarah Cain/Kane. She married my GG Grandfather, William Cain/Kane. I can only guess when at this stage. Probably the early 1850s though. She was certainly married to William by the time of the 1861 census.

Thanks for your interest though. 

[The Yokel]

Welcome to rootschat 


From the Norfolk Marriage Index

Michael Hall married Rachael Todd 9 Sept 1822 at Thetford St Cuthberts

yokel

[The Yokel]

16 Sept 1831
Sarah Sophia daughter of Michael and Rachel Hall (occupation Brazier) baptised at Diss

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Diss bapts 1813-1835 image 85 of 103

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yokel

[lizdb]

I'm not having any success finding them in 1861 under Cain/Kane - nor can I see a marriage for Sarah Hill to William Cain/Kane ..... (though of course if it were a second marriage then she wouldnt be Hall)

WHat is the source of your info?  Have you got a birth cert of one of their children, thus confirming mothers maiden name - does it show any other previous names for her?
Can you give names and yr of births of their children?

[WilliamKane]

16 Sept 1831
Sarah Sophia daughter of Michael and Rachel Hall (occupation Brazier) baptised at Diss

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0tgd/

Diss bapts 1813-1835 image 85 of 103

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0tge/

Wow! Thank you so much for that and for the previous post about her mam and dad.  It took a matter of hours for the breakthrough that had eluded me for so long! Again, wow!

yokel

[WilliamKane]

I'm not having any success finding them in 1861 under Cain/Kane - nor can I see a marriage for Sarah Hill to William Cain/Kane ..... (though of course if it were a second marriage then she wouldnt be Hall)

WHat is the source of your info?  Have you got a birth cert of one of their children, thus confirming mothers maiden name - does it show any other previous names for her?
Can you give names and yr of births of their children?

Well, the best I have for 1861 is under the name "Cane". The trouble with that source is however, Sarah the mother is listed as having been born in Scotland.    I'm almost certain it's them though.
My source? Census records and local church records. Sarah (the child) could well have been William's daughter, the problem arose when I was looking at baptism records the other day and having estimated her birth year as 1854, I was horrified to find that the relevant volume was missing from the records!
I am currently doing an Irish family history course and we were all at the local archives, each doing our own research but the "teacher" as it were, got stuck when it came to finding Sarah (the child's) birth.  I have already mentioned the missing volume but there was something else? Some other reason why she may not have been William's but for the life of me, I can't remember what that reason was! I must quiz him at my next class on Thursday.

As for dates of birth for other children -
Rachael 28.3.1859 Died as a child but no idea when.
Mary Ann 12.8.60
Margaret 28.1.63
Rachael 9.8.65 Again died with out further info.

Finally the twins
William 14.1.67
Michael Signey 14.1.67 (The baptism records show his name as Michael Sidney, however my cousin assures me that it was Signey, that being a name in Sarah's family)

There are references to Sarah in the 1841 census, (living in Gateshead with her parents and two brothers James 15 and Matthew 13. 
In 1851 she's listed as living in Newcastle as a lodger with the Scott family. No idea why.
1861 As stated previously, under Cane.
!871 She's living in Gateshead with five children. The latest being 3 day old John for whom I have no baptism records as yet.
1881 In Gateshead with William and two son's, William and Michael the twins.

That's it. That's all I have.

Oh by the way, I haven't been able to get any certificates of any sort, due to the fact that I'm skint! I'm hoping the situation will pick up soon! 

[WilliamKane]

Welcome to rootschat 


From the Norfolk Marriage Index

Michael Hall married Rachael Todd 9 Sept 1822 at Thetford St Cuthberts

yokel

By the way, may I ask where you got that information from? I mean, the Norfolk Marriage Index, where can I find that? I can find nothing about Rachael nor Michael.