Ernest Steven Johnson, in 1911census was aged 3 born Woodford, Essex.

[dennis johnson]

1911 census shows that Joseph Johnson was a boarder with Rebecca  and Alfred Swann at 15 Albert Street New Street, Cambridge. Eliza his wife has now died Jan 1910. Record checks show that Rebecca Swann was Nee Johnson and the daughter of Joseph. As well as their own 4 daughters and (her Dad Joseph), Rebecca and Alfred had a nephew with them:  Ernest Steven Johnson, aged 3 born Woodford, Essex.
I am looking to find out more about Ernest Steven Johnson as this relative is currently missing from tree and likewise are any Johnsons in Essex. I cant find a birth for Ernest Steven Johnson in Woodford? Would like to get a Birth Cert to see who his parents where.
Does antone have any ideas or suggestions. Thanks in avance. Dennis Johnson

[Manchester Rambler]

I wonder whether he may have been born prior to his parents' marriage?  If so, this chap might fit the bill:

Births Sep 1907   
SMITH  Ernest Stephen J       
W. Ham 4a 450

[dennis johnson]

Thats an intresting thought and one I had not considered.
So I did a marriage search and found Amelia  Johnson Married Ernest Smith 1900 west Ham. Look up both ways shows they definatley married each other W Ham 4a 233. But this marriage is before the childs birth? So I will see if perhaps he died? Or a very convenient coincidence.

Thanks for reply by the way.

[avm228]

Thats an intresting thought and one I had not considered.
So I did a marriage search and found Amelia  Johnson Married Ernest Smith 1900 west Ham. Look up both ways shows they definatley married each other W Ham 4a 233.

It looks to me as though Amelia Johnson actually married Alfred Byford on the same page. 1901 ref for them is RG13/1563/89/35.

What were the names of Rebecca Johnson's siblings?

[avm228]

Rebecca Johnson (b Mar qtr 1883 Cambridge) seems to have had the following siblings (parents Joseph & Eliza) per 1891/1901.

Elizabeth b abt 1881
Joseph b abt 1885 (Dec qtr 1884 Cambridge)
Jane b abt 1887 (Sep qtr 1886 Cambridge)
Eliza b abt 1889 (Mar qtr 1889 Cambridge)
May/Laura b 1890  (possibly May Emma? Jun qtr 1890 Cambridge)
Emily b abt 1892
Nelly b abt 1894 (possibly Ellen, Dec qtr 1894 Cambridge)
Thomas b abt 1898

All born in Cambridge.

1891 ref: RG12/1284/10/14
1901 ref: RG13/1529/29/16.

[dennis johnson]

you beat me to the list of siblings

[JaneyCanuck]

An Ernest S Johnson aged 40 died in Cambridge in Dec quarter 1947. That equates to a birth in 1907 before the date of death, or 1906 after the date of death.

That is the only good match for a death for the boy in the 1911 census (and the 1907 Smith birth if it is him). It might be worth getting the death certificate.

Ernest S Johnson married Edith C Robinson in Cambridge in Sep quarter 1935. That certificate might be more interesting than the death certificate. There don't seem to be any births to the marriage in Cambridgeshire - 1929 is too early, and 1951 twins seems a little late. Edith Clara Robinson was born 1910 in Chesterton district and Edith Clara Johnson born 1910 died in 1988 in Cambridge.



Assuming that Johnson is the given name that the "J" in the 1907 birth stands for, it is maybe more likely that the mother was Smith and the father was Johnson; that was a common naming pattern for children of unmarried parents: give the father's surname as a middle name.

[JaneyCanuck]

There are some (mostly massive) family trees at Anc'y/Mundia showing Edith Clara Robinson and I am looking at one in particular that has info about Ernest S Johnson. If you do the search at mundia.com (free to register, search and contact tree owners, has all public Anc'y trees), it is the tree that has 1,927 people in it.

Ernest S Johnson
birth 1907
marriage 1935 Chesterton, Cambridge
death 1947 Cambridge: resulting from an accident at Ely Sugarbeet Factory
burial: plot 7725, Cambridge City Cemetery
job: carpenter

Unfortunately it shows no children, and no info about his ancestry - which in itself is suggestive.