john Hughes

[wilcoxon]

 Can anyone find John Hughes for me, I have him after his marriage to Ann Howard, BUT even though I have brief marriage details I don`t know who his parents were or where they were in 1841. I think this is the correct one in 1851, but can`t find the connection between Peter  Williams and  Mary ? Hughes ? and John Hughes.
Thanks

1851 Bears Head Yard,  Holywell
Peter Williams 42 baker b Holywell
Mary Williams  wife 57 b Holywell
Catherine Smith servant  unm 32 b Holywell
Ann Sibion  sister  unm 40 b Holywell
Thomas Edwards nephew unm 19 hairdresser b Holywell
Thomas Sibion nephew unm 17 joiner b Liverpool
John Hughes nephew unm 17 lead miner b Holywell
 
Hughes  John     Holywell  11b 326  / Howard  Ann    Holywell  11b 326   
Married Ann Howard.
4 August 1860  Holywell Parish Church
Witnesses (Mark of) Williams Hughes and Sarah Howard

[wrjones]

There is a Tree on Ancestry which has one Thomas in 1851 as a Thomas Whitefoot Sibeon born in Liverpool in 1834.It has Thomas W's mother as an Elizabeth Harrison with no birth details.His fathher is given as an  Isaac Sibeon born in Holywell in 1810.

Regards
William Russell Jones.

[wilcoxon]

Thanks, but I`m looking for John Hughes 

[despair]

All the relationships appear "Sibion" family related.
Thomas is the son of William Sibion and Elizabeth(Lancs OPC)
Mary Williams is nee Whitefoot,nee Sib(b)ion.Daughter Rebecca from first marriage is with Peter and Mary in 1841.
Thomas Edwards is the illegitimate son of Margaret Sibion,presumably a sister, and Thomas Edwards.
Margaret Sibion then marries a John Hughes(1833),and the John of interest is their son.
I can't find this family on the 1841,perhaps one or both  parents have died.There is a John Hughes of the right age in the St Asaph workhouse in 1841,but the name is obviously not uncommon.

Regards
Roger

[wilcoxon]

Thanks, that took a lot of working out .
I have been advised that the FindMyPast 1860  parish register entry  of my John`s marriage  to Ann Howard only has the banns, so that's no help to finding a father
 However _ I don`t know where the information on the witnesses has come  from.

 

[despair]

The baptismal entry for March 1834 has the father as a hairdresser,but no specific address.

Regards
Roger

[wilcoxon]

Thanks for your efforts.

I have managed to get some details on the marriage.
 Hayes Marriage Index only has fathers details, but it is still a great help.

Hughes, John : father  Hughes, William / Howard, Ann : father  Howard, John

[wilcoxon]

Thanks to the added info from the marriage , I may have found the right John. I`m not sure about the place they are at in 1851.
There was also a William Hughes , witness at marriage, but I`ve not seen that so cannot confirm it`s correct.

1851 Covitia ? Llwyd Bagillt.
William Hughes 44 miner b Halkin
Mary Hughes wife  38 b Caerwys
Edward Hughes 16 miner b Milwr Holwell
John Hughes son 14  “ b “
William Hughes son 12 “ b “
George Hughes 9 son b “
Robert Hughes son 7 b “
Anne Hughes 5 dau b “
Richard Hughes son 5 b “
Robert Jones lodger unm 42 farm labourer b Ruthin

1841 High Gate, Brynford , Holywell, all born in Flintshire
William Hughes 30 leadminer Y
Mary Hughes 25 Y
Edward Hughes 6 Y
John Hughes 4 Y
William Hughes 2 Y
Grace Hughes 6 Mo Y
 

[despair]

I think the 1851 address is (currently) Coetia Llwyd.There are two listed,close to each other with postcodes CH8 8BD and CH8 8BE.

Regards
Roger