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Re: George Wickham and Dolly Bailey
« Reply #27 on: Monday 01 April 13 08:03 BST (UK) »
crisane, FYI, here is the information contained on NZ marriage certificates
https://bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/datacollected/marriage.aspx
Thanks twiggy. I am too frightened to look at mine it is so long ago :)

In Papers past I found this
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&cl=search&d=FS19170219.2.9&srpos=37&e=-------10--31----2george+wickham--

but if this George came out in 1874 then the George who died in 1959 age 83 cannot be his son mentioned in the obit. On the other hand ages have been know to be wrong.

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Re: George Wickham and Dolly Bailey
« Reply #28 on: Monday 01 April 13 08:04 BST (UK) »
IF we were looking for him in England (freebmd.org.uk) then I find it rather amusing there is a birth in the June quarter of 1877 for a George WICKHAM in Bath, England.

Pride and Prejudice anyone?
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Re: George Wickham and Dolly Bailey
« Reply #29 on: Monday 01 April 13 08:06 BST (UK) »
Didn't twig at that Janette, thought it was strange that two Ivys were on the burial locator for the same year, and of course the same Funeral Director is listed on the Wanganui one.

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Re: George Wickham and Dolly Bailey
« Reply #30 on: Monday 01 April 13 08:08 BST (UK) »
You may have struck gold KHP ;D ;D

Cheers Janette


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Re: George Wickham and Dolly Bailey
« Reply #31 on: Monday 01 April 13 08:09 BST (UK) »
Hope so :)
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Re: George Wickham and Dolly Bailey
« Reply #32 on: Monday 01 April 13 08:11 BST (UK) »
George,

I suggest you contact the very helpful sexton at Wanganui cemeteries

http://www.wanganui.govt.nz/services/Cemeteries.asp

Cheers Janette

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Re: George Wickham and Dolly Bailey
« Reply #33 on: Monday 01 April 13 08:16 BST (UK) »
Thanks for that. Looks like maybe we have our man. Could be traceable back to England then...

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Re: George Wickham and Dolly Bailey
« Reply #34 on: Monday 01 April 13 14:37 BST (UK) »

In Papers past I found this
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&cl=search&d=FS19170219.2.9&srpos=37&e=-------10--31----2george+wickham--

but if this George came out in 1874 then the George who died in 1959 age 83 cannot be his son mentioned in the obit. On the other hand ages have been know to be wrong.

Hi George

I'm inclined to believe that your George WICKHAM was born in New Zealand around 1876 and that he was the son of the George WICKHAM (died 1917) whose obituary (at above link) was found by
crisane.

Having said that, I cannot find his birth registration in NZ (nor one for Albert, the youngest son of George WICKHAM snr ) ??  [There could be a number of reasons for that ;  surname spelled incorrectly on the online Birth index (- and as there's no "wildcard" search facility there, we can only guess variant spellings) ;   or, the birth may not have been registered at all. ]
Cecilia, he last-born child of George WICKHAM snr. did though have her birth registered (1881) and from that we learn that her mother's name was Jane.

It's still important (as suggested here earlier), to purchase the marriage printout (1910) for Ivy BAILEY and George WICKHAM, just to make absolutely certain, that you're tracking the correct families.   :)

In anticipation, I'll add the WICKHAM information I've located to date.   

   ~  Lu
 

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Re: George Wickham and Dolly Bailey
« Reply #35 on: Monday 01 April 13 15:06 BST (UK) »
Will begin with George WICKHAM (bc 1876) whose first marriage was to Ellen OLVER (1902).

PapersPast has their Marriage notice.

http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz

"Feilding Star"  - 3 May 1902 - page 2

[Extract ]

WICKHAM - OLVER ... on 30th April at St. Stephens, Marton,  ... George, third s/o Mr G. WICKHAM of Feilding, to Ellen, eldest d/o Mr W. OLVER, Marton :

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Sadly the two children (Adelaide Beulah and Kenneth George) born to the couple,  both died in infancy :   They were buried at the Feilding Cemetery - as is their mother, Ellen.
The "Feilding Star" - 17 October 1905 - page 2, notes that baby Kenneth's death occurred at New Plymouth.

There is a headstone for the children (- photo available) at the following link  >

http://www.mdc.govt.nz/Online_Services/Find_It/Cemetery_Search

George WICKHAM snr. (d. 1917) and his wife Jane (d. 1921) and several of their children / grandchildren are also at Feilding Cemetery.
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