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Thomas Edgar White m Helen Nellie Ratcliffe
« on: Sunday 31 March 13 06:22 BST (UK) »
I have information that a Thomas Edgar White married a Helen Nellie Ratcliffe in 1934.

I'm trying to find out if this Thomas is my ancestor. My Thomas was born in 1910 (the same year as abovementioned Thomas) in Durham, England, and I believe my Thomas emigrated to NZ in 1926 onboard the SS Rotorua as part of the Flock House Sheepowners Scheme for Boys.

I cannot find any further information on Thomas in NZ to try and confirm that he is in fact my ancestor. My Thomas' parents were Thomas 'Edgar' White and Margaret Keady Brewis.

Any advice would be appreciated.
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Re: Thomas Edgar White m Helen Nellie Ratcliffe
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 31 March 13 06:34 BST (UK) »
Hi Bails,

A Thomas Edgar White died in NZ on 4 May 1952 aged only 42, exactly matching the year of birth you provided.

Edited to add: The source for this information was NZ BDM online. https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/home/
The exact date of death was determined by narrowing the search parameters.

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ELLERKER - Beverley ERY ENG
HEALEY - IRL?
MURDOCH - Wigtownshire SCT, Otago and Westland NZ
PALING - Nottinghamshire ENG
RILEY - Flamborough; Cottingham; South Dalton ERY, Manitoba CAN, & London ENG
STURTON - Arnold, Nottinghamshire ENG
SUTTRON - All, NRY & DUR ENG
TAYLOR - London ENG
TYLER - London ENG
TERNAN/TIERNAN - Dublin IRL

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Re: Thomas Edgar White m Helen Nellie Ratcliffe
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 31 March 13 06:36 BST (UK) »
His probate appears on the Archives New Zealand search portal, Archway. He was a roadman.

It's the only reference I could see.

http://archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=22036732
ELLERKER - Beverley ERY ENG
HEALEY - IRL?
MURDOCH - Wigtownshire SCT, Otago and Westland NZ
PALING - Nottinghamshire ENG
RILEY - Flamborough; Cottingham; South Dalton ERY, Manitoba CAN, & London ENG
STURTON - Arnold, Nottinghamshire ENG
SUTTRON - All, NRY & DUR ENG
TAYLOR - London ENG
TYLER - London ENG
TERNAN/TIERNAN - Dublin IRL

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Re: Thomas Edgar White m Helen Nellie Ratcliffe
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 31 March 13 06:39 BST (UK) »
Hi,

There is an 1952 death for a Thomas Edgar White aged 42 at BDM.

Cheers
KHP

Oops, Sorry Spades, didn't see the first post of yours sneak in. ;D
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Re: Thomas Edgar White m Helen Nellie Ratcliffe
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 31 March 13 06:45 BST (UK) »
If, he is your chappie, then he is buried at Taruheru Cemetery, Gisborne.  There is a photo of the headstone.


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Re: Thomas Edgar White m Helen Nellie Ratcliffe
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 31 March 13 06:45 BST (UK) »
On 1935 the electoral roll for Bay of Plenty:

WHITE Thomas Edgar, Wairongomai Station, Ruatoria, shepherd
WHITE Helen, Wairongomai Station, Ruatoria, married

In 1938 Gisborne,
WHITE Thomas Edgar, Tahunga, shepherd
WHITE Helen, married

in 1946 Hawkes Bay
WHITE Thomas Edgar c/o E.H. White, Tahunga, shepherd
WHITE Helen, married

in 1949 Hawkes Bay
WHITE Thomas Edgar, Tahunga, shepherd
WHITE Helen, married

Cheers
Helen

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Re: Thomas Edgar White m Helen Nellie Ratcliffe
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 31 March 13 06:53 BST (UK) »
Thomas appears on this page, an alphabetical list of Flock House Boys. It provides the individual's origin, vessel they emigrated on, year, and draft number.
http://reocities.com/Heartland/Estates/8053/flock1.html

I think you can safely say that his wife was Helen RATCLIFFE!

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ELLERKER - Beverley ERY ENG
HEALEY - IRL?
MURDOCH - Wigtownshire SCT, Otago and Westland NZ
PALING - Nottinghamshire ENG
RILEY - Flamborough; Cottingham; South Dalton ERY, Manitoba CAN, & London ENG
STURTON - Arnold, Nottinghamshire ENG
SUTTRON - All, NRY & DUR ENG
TAYLOR - London ENG
TYLER - London ENG
TERNAN/TIERNAN - Dublin IRL

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Re: Thomas Edgar White m Helen Nellie Ratcliffe
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 31 March 13 07:03 BST (UK) »
There is a family tree here which mentions Thomas and several children.
http://www.pyenet.co.nz/familytrees/pye-kelly/gp935.html#head2

Spades
ELLERKER - Beverley ERY ENG
HEALEY - IRL?
MURDOCH - Wigtownshire SCT, Otago and Westland NZ
PALING - Nottinghamshire ENG
RILEY - Flamborough; Cottingham; South Dalton ERY, Manitoba CAN, & London ENG
STURTON - Arnold, Nottinghamshire ENG
SUTTRON - All, NRY & DUR ENG
TAYLOR - London ENG
TYLER - London ENG
TERNAN/TIERNAN - Dublin IRL

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Re: Thomas Edgar White m Helen Nellie Ratcliffe
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 31 March 13 08:14 BST (UK) »
Thanks everyone for helping out. Amazing what you can find on the internet these days!

All the information is great; however, I still can't definitely find a link to say that this is my ancestor. I'm also a year out on being able to order their marriage certificate to determine the facts.

I think I might order his death certificate and see what that tells me.

Cheers!
Living in QLD Australia & researching:
Bushby (UK, AU & NZ)
Doland (UK)
Halley (UK)
Marchant (UK & NZ)
Sanders (UK & NZ)
Smith (UK)
White (UK & NZ)