Thornton Watlass lookup request please

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Please help! I am trying to find Ann Webster who married John Webster in Bedale in 1805 (yes both surnames are webster). I believe she was born in 1785 and possibly in Thornton Watlass or surrounding area. Any information/help will be appreciated! Thanks

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Hi Heart,

Just for my curiosity, could the following be Ann's burial details :

Burial, 26th April 1860
Ann Webster
aged 77 years
Approximate birth year - 1783
St John's, Leeming

In 1851, Ann born Thornton, claims she was 66 years old, giving her a birth year of 1785,
as you've stated.

The reason for me saying all this, it might be worth considering Thornton Steward
and providing I'm on the right one, could their daughter Elizabeth have been baptised
there in 1811.

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/NRY/Thorntonsteward/index.html

Christening, 21st May 1811
Elizabeth Webster
Parents : John and Anne Webster
Thornton Steward, Yorkshire

Kind regards,

Pels.

[Pels.]

This would then be the marriage for the parents of Elizabeth :

Marriage, 8th September 1810   
John Webster
Anne Bell
Thornton Steward,Yorkshire

Christening, 13th March 1785
Nancy Bell
Parents : Willm and Mary Bell
Thornton Steward,Yorkshire
   
Nancy was a variation of Ann, plus in later years, on the 1891 census Elizabeth Webster, spinster was living in Leeming, so a lot of coincidences. The reason I'm querying all this, there aren't any apparent births from 1805 in the Bedale area, but there are from 1811 onwards.

Knowing my luck you'll be referring to the Webster's who are living in Ripon, but hopefully nothing lost by my saying - and it will stop someone else making the same mistake.

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I think I've made a connection, but so I can check back, Ann with family in 1841 :

1841 census :
HO107/1248/6; Folio 18, Page 10

Yorkshire, Leeming

John Webster, 56, Brick and Tile Maker, Labourer
Ann, 56
Ann, 25
Richard, 15
Robert, 13
Hannah, 12
Bartholomew, 9
William, 4
Elizabeth, 3

All born in county.

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And in 1851 :

1851 census
HO107/2378, Folio 166, Page 7

Yorkshire, Leeming

Anne Webster, Head, Widow, 66, Pauper, b.Yorkshire, Thornton
Robert, Son, unm,  25, b. Yorkshire, Burrel
Hannah Nelson, Dau, mar, 23, b. Yorkshire, Burrel
Wm Webster, Grandson, 14, b. Yorkshire, Leeming
Elizth Webster, Grand dau, 13, b. Yorkshire, Leyburn
Anne Nelson, Grand dau, 2, b.Yorkshire, Leeming

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The reason for me saying all this, it might be worth considering Thornton Steward
and providing I'm on the right one, could their daughter Elizabeth have been baptised
there in 1811.

Christening, 21st May 1811
Elizabeth Webster
Parents : John and Anne Webster
Thornton Steward, Yorkshire

This would then be the marriage for the parents of Elizabeth :

Marriage, 8th September 1810   
John Webster
Anne Bell
Thornton Steward,Yorkshire

Hoping to find the connection between Elizabeth Webster, baptised Thornton Steward in 1811. It would help lay some foundations to what I've posted above, but throw some doubt on the Bedale marriage in 1805.

Have you seen this :

1881 census :
RG11/4928, Folio 21, Page 35

Durham, Crook and Billy Row
Whitwell Terrace

William Seymour, h, mar, 60, Coke Burner, b. Yorkshire, Bedale
Franc(e), wife, mar, b. Yorkshire, Burial
George, son, unm, 16, Labourer at Coke Ovens, b. Durham, Crook
Franc(e) Walton, Grandau, 9, Scholar, b. Durham, Crook
Elizabeth Webster, Lodger, unm, 70, Pauper, b. Yorkshire, Thornton  (Blind - 3 years)

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1881 census :
RG11/4928, Folio 21, Page 35

Durham, Crook and Billy Row
Whitwell Terrace

William Seymour, h, mar, 60, Coke Burner, b. Yorkshire, Bedale
Franc(e), wife, mar, b. Yorkshire, Burial
George, son, unm, 16, Labourer at Coke Ovens, b. Durham, Crook
Franc(e) Walton, Grandau, 9, Scholar, b. Durham, Crook
Elizabeth Webster, Lodger, unm, 70, Pauper, b. Yorkshire, Thornton  (Blind - 3 years)

The couple Elizabeth was staying with in 1881 married in the Bedale registration district :

Marriage, Sep qtr 1843
William Seymour
Francis Webster
Bedale, Vol 24, Page 248

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1851 census
HO107/2378, Folio 166, Page 7

Yorkshire, Leeming

Anne Webster, Head, Widow, 66, Pauper, b.Yorkshire, Thornton
Robert, Son, unm,  25, b. Yorkshire, Burrel
Hannah Nelson, Dau, mar, 23, b. Yorkshire, Burrel
Wm Webster, Grandson, 14, b. Yorkshire, Leeming
Elizth Webster, Grand dau, 13, b. Yorkshire, Leyburn
Anne Nelson, Grand dau, 2, b.Yorkshire, Leeming

Frances and William Seymour were also living in Leeming on the 1851 :

1851 census :
HO107/2378, Folio 165, Page 4

Yorkshire, Leeming

William Seymour, h. mar, 29, b. Yorks, Bedale
Frances, wife, 29, Yorks, Burrell
Anne, dau, 7, b. Yorks, Leeming
John, son, 4, b. Yorks, Brompton on Swale
Thomas, son, 3, b. Yorks, Leeming

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Could Elizabeth Webster, baptised Thornton Steward in 1811 and Frances be
sister's, when you compare - it certainly looks a good possibility :

Christening, 21st May 1811
Elizabeth Webster
Parents : John and Anne Webster
Thornton Steward, Yorkshire

Christening: 8th October 1820
Frances Webster
Parents : John and Anne Webster
Bedale, Yorkshire

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