Elizabeth Pole nee Sewell

[AMBLY]

Just found that one too Keyboard86 - I'd say that looks like her in 1851 at Back Street, Huncote (there are Bridge Street address' on the same Census Page)

For Ref the 1841 was : Elizabeth POOL 25, F.S. - Y
One of a number of Servants in  the Household of the Cosby Vicarage, Narborough

Still not fishing her out of 1881   

Cheers
AMBLY

[willsy]

There is this

Merchant Navy Seamen Records, 1835-1941
Name:    John Poole
Event Type:    Military Service
Event Year Range:    1845-1854
Event Place:    United Kingdom   
Birth Year:    1815
GS Film number:    1494293
Digital Folder Number:    004620603

as that census in Portsmouth keeps popping up, need Yvon-3 to help with John


trees have the brewer John 1881 in Leicester but I have a niggle he's not the right one..? John and Matilda's family

[AMBLY]

Hard to say, isn't it 

Can't see her in 1881 - and I've even wide searched for anyone born in Huncote of any age  living anywhere in England. I keep finding her (presumed) brother, William SEWELL and his wife Mary (even on the wide wide search) who are still there but Elizabeth isn't with or near them.


Cheers
AMBLY

[yvon-3]

Hi All. Thank you for all your effort. I think you may have cracked it.
     I have a dim and distant memory of Frederick Pole from years ago but I think I dismissed him because I thought I had Elizabeths death as being 1838 which I now know was incorrect. I think you are right in him being Richards brother. So now to John Pole. The John Pole that was married to a Mitilda  is not my John Pole. He was a brewer and beer seller ,he was also convicted of fighting assult and selling beer out of hours at various times.( News Paper records)
    My John Pole I think spent a lot of time in and out of Prison for larcony and causing a riot. This is the Portsea and Portsmouth connection.Portsea was a prison.
        I am still going through everything else in your posts so I will get back to you again tomorrow
Thanks again

Yvon-3

[yvon-3]

Hi again everyone.
     I have gone through all the replies from yesterday and I have confirmed all of what is in the posts except the Navy record. I don't think that is anything to do with my family. I also cannot find Elizabeth Pole or her husband on any 1881 census. I have been searching for John Pole in 1881 for years and have not found a thing. He was in prison in 1871 and in 1891 both in Portsea so I assume he was also in there in 1881. If John Pole was in prison it would explain why her 2 sons are living with relatives and she was working .

Thanks for all your help

Yvon-3

[jan57]

Hi again everyone.
     I have gone through all the replies from yesterday and I have confirmed all of what is in the posts except the Navy record. I don't think that is anything to do with my family. I also cannot find Elizabeth Pole or her husband on any 1881 census. I have been searching for John Pole in 1881 for years and have not found a thing. He was in prison in 1871 and in 1891 both in Portsea so I assume he was also in there in 1881. If John Pole was in prison it would explain why her 2 sons are living with relatives and she was working .

Thanks for all your help

Yvon-3

 Sometimes prisoners were put  on census forms  only  by   initials  ,  rather than full names ,   but no  doubt  you've gone down that route !

[yvon-3]

Hi,
     I have found Elizabeth Pole in 1881. She is with the same family the Ortons but they are in Wales . Martha Sewell is also there. Rhuddlan ,Flintshire. East Parade Plastirion Terrace. RG11 Piece 5528 Folio57 pg 9. I also think I may have found her husband in Portsea Prison but I think his age is listed wrong.it says age 56 when it should be 69 but it has him as a Pensioner . So this needs a little more work.

Thanks for your help. This is now complete.

Yvon-3

[keyboard86]

Hi,
     I have found Elizabeth Pole in 1881. She is with the same family the Ortons but they are in Wales . Martha Sewell is also there. Rhuddlan ,Flintshire. East Parade Plastirion Terrace. RG11 Piece 5528 Folio57 pg 9. I also think I may have found her husband in Portsea Prison but I think his age is listed wrong.it says age 56 when it should be 69 but it has him as a Pensioner . So this needs a little more work.

Thanks for your help. This is now complete.

Yvon-3

Hi well done it is RG11/5528/57/10 on my site, still would like to see the marriage though?
Keyboard86

[AMBLY]

Well done on finding her in 1881 in Wales  

"Pensioner" would indicate ex-soldier or ex-navy, I would say.

Do you know for sure the man in prison, is your John POLE though?

Cheers
AMBLY