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Re: Marriages of Mary Mason to John Quinn and John Butler
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 28 March 13 09:58 GMT (UK) »
Looking for Mary in 1901 but not sure any of these are her-

Mary Quinn, age 18, born Co.Kildare, husband John Joseph Quinn:
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Rathmines___Rathgar_East/Oakley_Road/1293594

Mary Quinn, age 18, born Co.Dublin, husband John Quinn:
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/North_City/Little_Denmark_Street/1332996

There seems to be no Mary Mason, single, born Co. Kildare in 1901.
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Re: Marriages of Mary Mason to John Quinn and John Butler
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 28 March 13 10:04 GMT (UK) »
based on the 1911 details, there's a birth for a possible Mary Mason on the BMD Index in the right area and timeframe...

  Name: Mary Mason
  Event Type: Birth
  Quarter/Year : Apr-Jun 1883
  Registration District: Rathdown
  Volume: 2 / Page: 908


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Re: Marriages of Mary Mason to John Quinn and John Butler
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 28 March 13 10:12 GMT (UK) »
and just two Mary Mason marriages in Rathdown district during the right sort of timeframe (1900 to 1911) - one Jul/Sep 1905 pg 839, the other Apr/Jun 1907 pg 874.

Neither have any Quinn or Butler cross-matches,

Where did the Mason clue originate ?





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Re: Marriages of Mary Mason to John Quinn and John Butler
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 28 March 13 16:02 GMT (UK) »
(John's place of birth is given as 'Mountnalow' - doesn't ring any bells...)

Monaloe, near Carrickmines/Deansgrange??

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Re: Marriages of Mary Mason to John Quinn and John Butler
« Reply #14 on: Friday 29 March 13 11:03 GMT (UK) »
Thank you everyone for your help  :)

*I know that Mary's maiden name was definately Mason as I have lots of her grandchildren still alive....my Dad being one! (My gran had 14 children).
*I know she was in service when she got married and is not at her mother's address 26 Loughlinstown Commons on the 1901 census.
*Her fathers name was Patrick Mason and he died in 1895 aged 55. Mother Catherine (nee Masterton) sister Esther and brother James. All the ladies were domestic servants.
*I will follow up www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/North_City/Little_Denmark_Street/1332996 as I guess there is a possibility Mary and John had a child that died prior to having Michael.
*Mary was born 16th July 1882 and died21st April 1962.
* Mary Mason, John Quinn and John Butler were all RC.

I don't understand why there are no records of these two marriages.

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Re: Marriages of Mary Mason to John Quinn and John Butler
« Reply #15 on: Friday 29 March 13 12:14 GMT (UK) »
either of these could be your mary mason. mary age 18 servant 14 marlborough rd glasthule. or mary age 19 servant 16 clontarf east both 1901 census.dont forget the head of household filled out the census form and could have assumed she was born in dublin. re her marriage i was looking for a great uncles marriage in 1920 for years it had me puzzled till just lately i found it registered in 1946 26 years after they married but i never got to the bottom of that one.

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Re: Marriages of Mary Mason to John Quinn and John Butler
« Reply #16 on: Friday 29 March 13 20:14 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for the reminder Dathai.....I know sometimes these things in geneology research are never cut and dried!
The 1901 census:
I think there may be a match between Mary Mason a servant at Marlborough Road, Glasthule, aged 18 and John Quinn aged 25 and a labourer at Sallynoggin Road, Glasthule.
The age for Mary according to her birthdate and when the census was taken would have made her 18 at the time.

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Re: Marriages of Mary Mason to John Quinn and John Butler
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 30 March 13 19:43 GMT (UK) »
Presume Mary’s Mother and siblings in 1901
James’ wife was Rosona Davis and listed at 27 Loughlinstown Commons;
they possibly married in Rathdown district in 1895 as there is a record for a marriage of a
James Mason but the possible spouses are not listed and there is a marriage record for a
Rosanna Davis in Rathdown referenced: Apr-Jun V2 Page 803
This marriage record should show where they were married and help indicate where to look for Mary’s marriage as she stayed in the same area.
James and Rosanna in 1911, if not already known to you this may help
Kearney & Bourke/ Johns & Fox/ Mannion & Finan/ Donohoe & Curley
Byrne [Carthy], Keeffe/ Germaine, Butler/ McDermott, Giblin/ Lally, Dolan
Toole, Doran; Dowling, Grogan/ Reilly, Burke; Warren, Kidd [Lawless]/ Smith, Scally; Mangan, Rodgers/ Fahy, Calday; Staunton, Miller
Further generations:
Brophy Coleman Eathorn(e) Fahy Fitzpatrick Geraghty Haverty Keane Keogh Nowlan Rowe Walder