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Marriages of Mary Mason to John Quinn and John Butler
« on: Wednesday 27 March 13 23:28 GMT (UK) »
After a couple of years searching, I still cannot find any records of my great grandmother to her 1st husband John Quinn of Shankill....I believe around 1902/3. They had a son Michael Quinn born on 1st September 1903. By the census of 1911, she had remarried to John Butler. The census record shows they had been married under a year at the time the census was taken.
Also cannot find anything as to whether John Quinn had died and that she was widowed when she married John Butler.
Any help in locating any of these records would be greatly received.

Thank you,

Tracy.

P.S. I live in London, so cannot get to the many places that records are held just yet  :(

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Re: Marriages of Mary Mason to John Quinn and John Butler
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 27 March 13 23:37 GMT (UK) »
Have you looked here

https://familysearch.org/search/collection/1408347

You would have to first look at marriages just in your grandmothers name (maiden name) then see if any match to a John Quinn in the same year/qtr and reference

She will have re-married as Quinn so use the same procedure to search for her marriage to Butler
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Re: Marriages of Mary Mason to John Quinn and John Butler
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 27 March 13 23:44 GMT (UK) »
I will try that Carol, but the site is having technical difficulties at the moment!

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Re: Marriages of Mary Mason to John Quinn and John Butler
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 27 March 13 23:46 GMT (UK) »
Hi

I had no problems getting in before I posted that link and can get in now using the link
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Re: Marriages of Mary Mason to John Quinn and John Butler
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 28 March 13 08:31 GMT (UK) »
I got onto Familysearch in the end and still no matches, except for a Mary A Mason born to the same parents (my gg grandparents) 8 years earlier!
I think I may have uncovered a child that passed away.

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Re: Marriages of Mary Mason to John Quinn and John Butler
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 28 March 13 08:34 GMT (UK) »
where is Mary on the 1901 return and Mary & John on the 1911 returns ?

Do you have a birth cert for Michael Quinn ?
The address/place of birth might help...


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Re: Marriages of Mary Mason to John Quinn and John Butler
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 28 March 13 08:44 GMT (UK) »
I struggled, and failed, last night to find a match for either marriage (Mary Mason to John Quinn and Mary Mason/Quinn to John Butler) and am wondering if there's a chance that Mary's maiden name was not Mason?
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!

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Re: Marriages of Mary Mason to John Quinn and John Butler
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 28 March 13 08:59 GMT (UK) »
looks like the family in 1911 at Loughlinstown, which is also entered as Mary's place of birth
 
  Quinn/Butler household

A birth registration appears on the BMD Index for a Michael Quinn in the Jul/Sept quarter of 1903 in Rathdown district, which looks like it fits.

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Re: Marriages of Mary Mason to John Quinn and John Butler
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 28 March 13 09:24 GMT (UK) »
Michael's place of birth is listed as Shankill, so would have thought the marriage would likely have been in the general area - but no John Butler marriage in the Rathdown or Dublin South districts that I see on the BMD index between 1908 and 1911

The is a Henry John Butler marriage in Rathdown district in 1908, but the only cross-match to this seems to be a Jane. Wonder if maybe John Butler & Mary married outside the area ?
John is listed as a gardner so could have moved around for work...


(John's place of birth is given as 'Mountnalow' - doesn't ring any bells...)


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