Smith, Peterson, Sestanovich, Crisp

[Janette]

And me

Cheers Janette

[BegClonrode ....]

Hi again...

A Walter SMITH, Master Mariner was naturalised in 1891.

NZ Gazette - p.530
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0t9d/

Archives NZ in Wellington should hold a copy of his Certificate of Citizenship. This isn't all that helpful as it just mentions his name and the fact that he is now one of us.

What's of interest is that to apply for citizenship he had to submit an "application for naturalisation, usually giving name, age, birthplace, residence, occupation and length of residence in New Zealand. The application was considered by government officials and ratified by the minister."

Archives New Zealand Research Guides - Citizenship
http://archives.govt.nz/research/guides/citizenship

A copy of his Certificate of Citizenship should be easy enough to obtain but, more importantly, looking for his Certificate of Citizenship will tell you whether or not his application for naturalisation still exists.

The first step is to view the following index held at Wellington Archives. This will hopefully point to both the certificate and the application....

Miscellaneous - Register of Persons Naturalised in New Zealand before 1948
http://archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=20964595

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It would be really handy if Mary applied for naturalisation before she married Walter. Her application for naturalisation would hold a lot of info as yet unknown.

I know that when a husband was naturalised his wife was did not have to apply as she was automatically given citizenship. But as Walter was naturalised in 1891 and the marriage wasn't until 1892 I'm not sure if Mary needed to apply separately, assuming she wanted citizenship.

Hopefully some can advise.

I guess the first step is to check ancestry for naturalisation applications for a Mary PETERSON pre-1892 and a Mary SMITH post-1892.

Regards
Beg

[Feebees21]

Again what can I say but thank you
 

[Lucy2]

Walter (could be Walther) Smith born Golubinza 1847

Hi Feebees21

I searched for Golubinza, but the nearest I could find was "Golubinci" (a villiage in Serbia ??)   

The following is the 1891 Naturalisation record (index listing) for a Walter SMITH at Auckland.
[The birth year is at odds with the year you have given ?? ... however name and occupation are the same.  ]

Walter SMITH
Born about 1838
Age :  53 years

Born :   Trieste, Italy
Former Nationality :  Austrian

Occupation :  Master Mariner            Resident at :   Auckland

Naturalisation Date :  7 May 1891

File #  1890/3500
Certificate Reg. #  28   /  page #  141
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  ~  Lu

[Lucy2]

Couldn't see a Naturalisation record for a Mary PETERSON / PETERSON or SMITH :

   ~  Lu

[BegClonrode ....]

I searched for Golubinza, but the nearest I could find was "Golubinci" (a villiage in Serbia ??)

Hello Lucy...

Thank you for looking up the naturalisation record.

Google found the following at CousinsConnect.

Website seems a bit shaky so I'll copy and paste it...

Date Posted:   04-Jun-2004      
Surname(s): PETERSON : SMITH    
Query Text: Walter Smith Master Mariner born 1838 Golubinza Austria married Mary Petersen born 1872 Denmark at Catholic church Port Ahurri New Zealand 2nd January 1892 by Father Micahel Grogan with Charles Dolbel and Jane Shanehen as witnesses

His parents were Frances Sestanvich and Nicholas Smith(I believe this may have been anglicised) Her parents were Elizabeth (surname unkown) and James Petersen.

Walter and Mary met on the ship going to NZ

They had 3 children Frances , Florence Lily and Archibald who went missing apprx 1914

Walter and Mary met on the ship going to NZ

Walter was in NZ waters in 1858, at least ten years before Mary was born. So either that story is wrong or it's a different couple.

Or maybe Walter was a crewman on the ship...

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Born :  1838, Trieste, Italy
Former Nationality : Austrian

Google says that Trieste was part of the Austrian Empire from 1813 until 1918. Then reverted to Italy post-WW1.

Trieste seems to have fairly good genealogy resources/websites. Guess the date of birth on the Master Mariner certificate is well worth finding.

Regards
Beg

[Lucy2]

Walter SMITH / Mary PETERSON :     
Some recent posts in another forum - Walter's y.o.b. stated as 1838.
Same /or another, researcher ??

[BegClonrode ....]

Hi again...

Most likely their cemetery records...

1918 minus 80 = 1838


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Waikumete Cemetery
http://www.waitakere.govt.nz/cnlser/cm/cemeterysearch/cemeterydetails.aspx?id=78774

SMITH, WALTER

Plot: ROMAN CATHOLIC DIVISION B Row 3, Plot 99

Interment Type: Burial

Title: MR

Surname: SMITH

Given Names: WALTER

Age: 80

Gender: Male

Occupation: SEAMAN

Date Of Death : 25-Aug-1918

Date Of Cremation : N/A

Date Of Burial : 27-Aug-1918   

Funeral Director : TJ MCIVOR

Head Stone Details : N/A

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Waikaraka Cemetery, Auckland

Name : SMITH, MARY
Details: F:
Died: 05-09-1942
Aged: 71
Place: Waikaraka
Location: Area 1 Block EXT Lot No 40A
Remarks: Transcribed inscription reads " In loving memory of our dear mother Mary Smith died 5 Sept 1942 aged 71 years. Rest in Peace"

PapersPast
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0t9e/

Regards
Beg

[Janette]

I am pretty sure that the  NZSG auckland hold the records for T J McIvor,it may be worth contacting them.

Cheers Janette