Smith, Peterson, Sestanovich, Crisp

[Feebees21]

Walter (could be Walther) Smith born Golubinza 1847
Arrived NZ ? but was there definitely 1892 Married Mary Peterson born 1871Denmark they were married  2nd Jan 1892 Napier I have marriage cert (But at moment have moved and it is filed under l for lost misplaced but here somewhere) He was the much older man and one with a temper
Walter was a sea captain and did have a vessel called Orpheus not one that had major loss of life
His father was Nicholas and was a farmer
Mother Frances Sestanvich
( do not know if there were other siblings (all my "wonderful oldies" ) are no longer with me
Her father was James Peterson
Her mother was Elizabeth (no surname)
I have all issue from these two
But wanting to know more about them
He was jailed in NZ for 5years for attempted murder of his wife Mary and a botched suicide (Papers Past) 1901 but from there I can find no more info except that Mary's only son Louis Archibald put down his address as Alfred Street Onehunga
Sorry if this is out of order or messy new appreciate any advice Thank you

[Janette]

Hi Feebees and welcome

Do you have all three of Walter and Mary's children?

1893/10766 Smith  Elizabeth Frances / Mary /Walter
1895/14998 Smith  Flora Livia Lily / Mary/ Walter
1897/5106 Smith  Louis Archibald / Mary/ Walter

Cheers Janette

[Janette]

Marriage for

1923/8237 Elizabeth Frances  Smith to John Maurice  O'Connell 

Cheers Janette

[giblet]

Have you seen the online military records for Louis?
His mother is noted as next of kin and as you stated living at Alfred Street.

[kiwihalfpint]

His military file has been digitised which you can download. 

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0fdf/


Cheers
KHP

[minniehaha]

Hello,

I see that you have the name of CRISP in your subject heading. Could you tell us where this fits into the story please? Or maybe I have just missed it?

Minniehaha. 

[BegClonrode ....]

Walter Smith
Arrived NZ ?

Hello...

In one of the PapersPast articles Captain SMITH mentions that he's been sailing in NZ waters since 1858. So he arrived at least 35 years before his marriage.

PapersPast
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0t96/

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Walter was a sea captain

There's a Walter SMITH in the A to J's who may be worth looking at.

Scroll down to page 16 of the following link...

1887 Session II - H-04 Marine Department - Annual Report for 1886-87
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0t97/

I think it corresponds to Certificate No.345 of the following volume held at Archives NZ in Wellington.

Certificates of Competency - Master - Ordinary - 1885-1888
http://archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=14557083

If it is the right Walter SMITH the certificate will have his date of birth. Also his place of birth but you already know that. Once you have a date and place of birth you can then start searching Austrian birth records. Hopefully Walter SMITH is an anglicised version of his original name.

If you can't get to Wellington you could always start a look-up request thread. Some kind soul will visit Wellington Archives on your behalf, take front and back photos of the certificate, then email them to you.

Here's an example of a look-up request thread...

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=615282.0

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Also you may (or may not) want to mention that there is a Certificate issued in 1884 to "Only Mate Walter SMITH". Bit suspicious of that as only three years later he's a Master. Also suspicious is the fact that it has the same certificate number as the Master certificate, namely No.345

Scroll down to page 12 of the following link...

1884 Session II - H-06 Annual Report of the Marine Department - 1886-87
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0t98/

...and here's the corresponding volume at Archives NZ

Certificates of Competency - Only mate - 1884-1890
http://archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=14557120


Your call

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Mary Peterson born 1871 Denmark
Her father was James Peterson
Her mother was Elizabeth (no surname)

Don't suppose you know where in Denmark Mary was born. Danish Archives are really informative once you get going but to get going with any certainty you tend to need a location.

Must admit that it's unlikely that Mary, James and Elizabeth were their original names.

Regards
Beg

[minniehaha]

Hi Fee Bee,

Have responded to your PM by PM.

Minniehaha. 

[BegClonrode ....]

Hi Fee Bee,

Me too

Regards
Beg