Donald McGowan or McGown

[Jennyoz]

I am looking for any information on Donald McGowan or McGown who was born in, or around, 1801. I have limited information from a 1851 and 1861 Census, but cannot find details of who lived in the household. It lists him as being in the County of Argyllshire. If anyone knows of any information, or links which can assist me, I would really appreciate it.

[MonicaL]

Hi Jennyoz

Where are these 1851 and 1861 census entries you have for him from?

There is this entry for example from the transcripts for 1861:

Daniel McGown, Cast Wright b. Killarow, Argyll
Address: Frederick St, Kildalton Argyll

Looks like this Daniel was living by himself. The best way to check on these details is to look at the original image of the censuses on the pay to view site www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk

Daniel and Donald are variants, see www.whatsinaname.net/php/search.php?action=search2&search_name=daniel

Monica 

[loobylooayr]

Hi Jenny,

Do you have any more information you can give regarding Donald McGowan/McGown. I've had a quick look on a website called www.freecen.org.uk which has most of Scotland's 1841 and 1851 Census transcribed and available to search for free (clue 's in the name of the site ), but unfortunately I've had no joy in finding him.
I also used www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk which is a pay to view site. 30 credits are purchased for £7.00 but beware you can blow your credits quicker than "snaw aff a dyke" (that means they can disappear quicker than snow off a fence in case I've confused you!). So it's best to be fairly certain of your facts before viewing images.
I have no credits left at the moment but was able to do a search just to find out how many McGowans/McGown there were on the Censuses in Argyll and to be honest there were not a lot of them . Only 38 people with the names in 1861, 25 in 1851 and 13 in 1841.
The name was much more prevalent in other areas of Scotland.
There is a marriage on www.familysearch.org of a Donald McGown to an Effy Campbell 18 Feb 1824 at Kidalton, Argyllshire but at this stage this is grasping at straws.
So if you have any more info please post it ,
Cheers
Looby

[ev]

Hi Monica / Looby

Think they are from the IGI/familysearch.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VYYW-V2V
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VB7R-GYL

ev

[MonicaL]

Ah, were these references from here:

1851 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VYYW-V2V - can't easily see this on the transcripts. You could try on Scotlands People on the link above.

1861 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VB7R-GYL - will be the entry above likely.

Monica

Added: sorry Ev, missed the red flags!

[ev]

From Jennyoz's second post it may link to a John Mcgowan but we really need more information 

ev

[loobylooayr]

Hi all,

Keying in Donald McGowan/McGown in 1851 Census in Argyll comes up with no matches! Can't think of any other spelling of the surname to try. In fact there are no hits for either name in the whole of Scotland.
There is however a Donald McGown , Kidalton, Argyll in 1861.

As for 1841 no-one with either name in Argyll but 2 McGowan and 1 McGown elsewhere.

looby

[Jennyoz]

Hi Looby, Monica, and Ev,

Firstly thank you for your help and time. Unfortunately I have little to no information. My great grandfather was John McGowan, and I have a lot of information on him. His father, Dugald (sometimes spelt Dougald), came out to Australia in 1856, and his wife and child followed in 1857. I have found quite a bit of information on the family, except for Dugald. I know he was born c. 1824, and I am led to believe , that he may have died on 4 June, 1879, in Queensland, Australia, in a place called Cooktown. There is a death for a Dougald McGowan there. He is the only one I have found in Australia's Births, Deaths and Marriages registry. His parents are listed as Donald McGowan and Margery McGowan. I got this bit of information off the QLD Births, Deaths and Marriages site. I have tried to search for a Donald McGowan and Margery McGowan. I looked on a few sites including "Familysearch.org" and the links that you have provided. I also looked on www.findmypast.com.au and "Find a grave"and found this link-

 http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=McGown&GSfn=Donald&GSby=1795&GSbyrel=in&GSdy=1865&GSdyrel=in&GSob=n&GRid=88932781&df=all&

In case the link does not work for some reason, the information on here was:

Donald McGown
Birth:  1795
Death:  Aug. 13, 1865
Burial: Kildalton Cemetery
Isle of Islay
Argyll and Bute, Scotland
 
Created by: ProgBase
Record added: Apr 21, 2012
Find A Grave Memorial# 88932781

As Dugald McGowan's surname was sometimes spelt without the "a", as in McGown, on some of his children's birth and death certificates, I believe that it may have originally not had the "a".

I am probably looking for a needle in a haystack here, but I guess what I really want to try and find is information which links Donald and Margery McGowan/McGown to Dugald McGowan/McGown.

Ev, just wondered from your post if you are looking for a John McGowan? This was my great granfathers name, and I have done a lot of research on him and have a lot of information. Let me know, so we can see, if by chance, I can be of help.

Cheers,
Jenny

[MonicaL]

Have you tried searching for Dougald in the earlier Scottish censuses?

Have to say, there are really not may options showing. The main entry showing in 1851, for example, is this one:

Dugald Mcgown 38 shoemaker b. Ireland
Margaret Mcgown 22 b. Ireland
Daniel Mcgown 1 Month b. Glasgow
Bridget Cairney 40, lodger, sick nurse b. Ireland
Address: 36 Bridgegate St, Glasgow

Why do you think your Dugald originated from the Argyll area?

What was the name of his wife? The shipping entry that you have in 1857, what were the details? John who you are researching was born once the family were in Australia?

Monica