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Which regiment did this man belong to?
« on: Friday 22 March 13 07:57 GMT (UK) »
I am researching Robert Wilkinson who was killed in Belgium during World War One. I have a post card which suggests his rank was Colour Sgt Major. I also have a photograph of him in uniform but the uniform does not seem to have the appearance of a Colour Sgt Major? Can anyone identify his regiment from the cap and sleeve badge? There is a regiment name on the post card but I don't understand all the abbreviations.

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Re: Which regiment did this man belong to?
« Reply #1 on: Friday 22 March 13 08:42 GMT (UK) »
I think this reads:

C Sgt Major Robert Wilkinson
A Coy  8st Yorks
23 Division BEF

Coy = Company
BEF = British Expeditionary Forces


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Re: Which regiment did this man belong to?
« Reply #2 on: Friday 22 March 13 08:47 GMT (UK) »
Not Colour Sergeant Major but Company Sergeant Major, The crown on his sleeve is the rank of Company Sergeant Major

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Re: Which regiment did this man belong to?
« Reply #3 on: Friday 22 March 13 08:55 GMT (UK) »
This is all very helpful  :) Can you tell me the army unit that the cap badge relates to?


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Re: Which regiment did this man belong to?
« Reply #4 on: Friday 22 March 13 09:08 GMT (UK) »
http://www.1914-1918.net/23div.htm   This is a link to info about 23rd Division.

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Re: Which regiment did this man belong to?
« Reply #5 on: Friday 22 March 13 09:10 GMT (UK) »
His regiment is the Yorkshire Regiment  -  8th battalion


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Re: Which regiment did this man belong to?
« Reply #6 on: Friday 22 March 13 11:25 GMT (UK) »
So it appears that this man Robert Wilkinson was a Company Sgt Major with the Yorkshire Regiment, 8th Bn. (A company). I know he died in Belgium and I've searched the CWG site and the nearest I can find is a Lance Serjeant Charles Robert Wilkinson with the Yorkshire Regiment, 2nd Bn. (C Company) http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead.aspx?cpage=1 :(
Any suggestions where I might look next please?

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Re: Which regiment did this man belong to?
« Reply #7 on: Friday 22 March 13 13:57 GMT (UK) »
Is it absolutely certain he died??

I've identified a CSM Robert Wilkinson in 8th Yorks, but he survived...

There's a medal card for a Robert Wilkinson, who started the war as Private 13765 in the Yorkshire regiment, and finished as 2nd Lieutenant in the Royal Air Force.
The card shows he landed in France on 26/8/15, which is the correct date for 8th Yorks. It also shows the address for medals to be sent to as 70 Milbank St, South Bank, Yorks.
Then there's an MID (Mention in Dispatches) card for 13765 R Wilkinson, which shows his rank to be Company Serjeant Major in 1917.
The relevant London Gazette entry is here http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/30434/supplements/13233

The next thing I can find is http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/31072/supplements/14882
"York.R. Temp. 2nd Lt. R. Wilkinson resigns his commission on appointment to RAF, 31 Nov 1918."

And then... http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/31669/pages/14925
"Royal Air Force.
The undermentioned are transferred to the unemployed list:
2nd Lt. Robert Wilkinson. 13 Apr 1919."

I must say it's highly likely these are all the same man, and certain that he was still alive in April 1919.

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