William & Brittania Walker, Middlesex, England

[Kar.Ma]

Hi, I am fairly sure the above are my 2nd G Grandparents, William Walker born abt 1833 at Stepney, Middlesex, England and Brittania Walker born abt 1837 at Bethnal Green according to the 1871 Census they have a son Edward born abt 1862 at Poplar, Middlesex, (my G Grandfather) which is the only one I can find that's about right with Father's name and marriage certificate of Edward and Frances Milson. I am unable to find a marriage for Brittania and William, not on Ancestry and I have looked and looked, they are also in an 1881 census, is there any way I can find out a marriage for them ?

Thank you

Kind regards

[carol8353]

So you are saying that this marriage is definitely yours?

Marriages Sep 1884   

Milson    Frances         West Ham    4a   48    

Walker    Edward         W.Ham    4a   48    

What info does the cert give,fathers name,his job,address they married from and the witnesses names. All would be needed to help us confirm that you are chasing the right parents 

Carol

[Ladyhawk]

Hi, I am fairly sure the above are my 2nd G Grandparents,
William Walker born abt 1833 at Stepney, Middlesex, England and
Brittania Walker born abt 1837 at Bethnal Green
 according to the 1871 Census they have a son
Edward born abt 1862 at Poplar, Middlesex, (my G Grandfather)

It would seem that both father and son have a middle name

William Benjamin Walker occ Cooper & Brittania
Abode Poplar
Baptisms St Dunstan & All Saints Stepney

Edward Thomas born 8 Aug 1861 bapt 20 Oct

William Edward born 7 Feb 1859 bapt 27 Feb 1859

Mary Jane born 22 Mar 1857 bapt 27 Feb 1859

Emma born 10 Sept Bapt 1 Oct 1865 abode 43 Park Street Poplar

William Benjamin born 17 Jul  bapt 9 Aug 1868  “      “       “

Alice Eliza born  25 Sep bapt 23 Oct 1870 abode 24 William St Poplar

and it looks as if Edward married Eliza EVANS

Marriage (online An*y) 20 Sep 1885 St Paul
Edward THOMAS Walker 24 occ. Cooper
Father William BENJAMIN Walker occ Cooper
Eliza EVANS f Charles occ Cooper
Witnesses James Evans & Emma Walker

Baptism of
William Benjamin Walker 8 Dec 1837 St Dunstan & All Saints Stepney
Parents William occ Mariner & Jane

Doesn't appear to be online to view but here's his marriage

Dec 1855 Shoreditch vol 1c page 342
William Benjamin WALKER
Name on same page
Britannica DANIELS

Agree with Carol8353 need further details from the marriage certificate you have for
Edward Walker to Frances Milson to confirm if you have the right family on the census

[Kar.Ma]

Hi Sorry if I missed any info out, here are the details from the marriage certificate, here they are in the Parish Church West Ham.

Date : 3 Aug 1884

Names : Edward Walker age 21  Bachelor  Occ: Labourer, Residence at time of marriage : West Ham
Father's Name : William Walker deceased.  Occ: Labourer.

Name: Frances Milson age 17  Spinster, no occ, Residence : West Ham
Father's Name : William Milson. Occ: labourer

Witnesses : william Milson, Elizabeth Garten (very faint on the surname there)

That's definitely him,  have census's with him and my Grandfather on, also my Grandfather's birth certificate.

Thank you, hope that makes it clearer, I have been searching for ages and I must be doing something wrong as I am not finding them, was almost certain William and brittania were them, but I may be wrong, esp if Edward marries Eliza Evans (as my Edward was married to Frances Milson).

kind regards and thank you so much for taking the time to help (I didn't know my Dad, so have had to start from the very beginning, with the information I have)

[Ladyhawk]

So you are saying that this marriage is definitely yours?

Marriages Sep 1884   

Milson    Frances         West Ham    4a   48    

Walker    Edward         W.Ham    4a   48    

What info does the cert give,fathers name,his job,address they married from and the witnesses names.

 All would be needed to help us confirm that you are chasing the right parents 

details of the marriage have been given to Kar.Ma on another thread

All Saints, West Ham

3rd August, 1884
Edward Walker,21,bachelor,labourer, father William Walker,labourer,deceased
Frances Milson,19,spinster,father William Milson, labourer
both of the parish and by banns
witnesses William Milson Elizabeth Godsen

For info. here’s the link to that thread
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,637741.msg4849514.html#msg4849514

[Kar.Ma]

I have the marriage certificate of Edward, am trying to find his parents. Sorry for being a pain. Thank you

[trish1120]

1851 Census she is under Brittannia Daniels born  c 1832 B Green, Middlesex.
With Mother ANN c 1797 and Siblings

1841 under Baittainna Daniels 1832, Parents Samuel/Ann c 1791/1801
HO107/691/6/Bethnal Green

Trish

[carol8353]

If William was a Cooper ( a trained occupation) on the 1871 and 81 censuses,I cannot see him being the same chap as the father on Edward's marriage cert where he is described as a deceased labourer.

If people were illegitimate they often invented a fathers name and said that he was deceased on their marriage cert.

Carol

[Kar.Ma]

Ok thank you, It's looking like I'm wrong, as my edward Walker was born abt 1863 and his father was a Labourer (there is an Edward Walker born in West Ham in the last 1/4 Oct-Nov-Dec 1862, in West Ham, I can't see any others here on Ancestry that 'fit' (my Father, his Father and Edward at his marriage and all other relations on my Father's mother's side have all been placed in the East End, mainly West Ham, I am getting confused with all this Middlesex, Essex malarky, I haven't been far out as Stepney,Poplar and Bethnal Green are in the East,  I may have to purchase another certificate. I have had very little info to go on, it's all been certificates so far. Thank you, again so sorry for being a pain