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« on: Monday 18 March 13 21:51 GMT (UK) »
Morning!
I am doing some research for someone and would like some advice on obtaining a birth certificate for a Sarah BINKS.

NSW BDM is showing 3 dates for this lady for the same parents - Father (Sydney) & Mother (Grace) - of 1848/1849/1850. All have separate reference numbers.

Any advice on which to order? Only her death certificate is showing place of birth as Paterson NSW - all of her other documents showing Cardiff Wales. I know about her marriages (2) and her children's births - just not her origins.

Thanks MC
Gallen - Dongegal
Comerford - Tipperary
Hurley - Clare
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Re: Binks
« Reply #1 on: Monday 18 March 13 21:58 GMT (UK) »
Just posting this for reference if anyone needs it

NSW bmd

V18492937 39A/1849    BINKS    SARAH    SYDNEY    GRACE         
V1848594 67/1848    BINKS    SARAH    SYDNEY    GRACE         
V1850416 141/1850    BINKS    SARAH    SYDNEY    GRACE

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« Reply #2 on: Monday 18 March 13 22:02 GMT (UK) »
Her parents married in NSW so i dont think Sarah would have been born in Wales.

V18362885 74A/1836    BINKS    SYDNEY    LEE    GRACE    JB    
V1836174 75/1836    BINKS    SYDNEY    LEE    GRACE    JB

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« Reply #3 on: Monday 18 March 13 22:08 GMT (UK) »
Index to 1841 Census
 BINKS   Sydney              
Black Wattle Swamp, Parish Petersham, County Cumberland, District Sydney

Convict index
BINKS   Sydney      Ship   Eliza   1829   36/0124   7 Mar 1836   Certificate of Freedom   [4/4332; Reel 996]       
BINKS   Sydney    Ship Eliza   1829   34/543       Ticket of Leave   [4/4094; Reel 921]District: Bathurst; Tried: Limerick CM


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« Reply #4 on: Monday 18 March 13 22:12 GMT (UK) »
Possible arrival of Grace

Index to Miscellaneous Immigrants
Ship  James Pattison   
LEE   Grace   
age 24   
11/02/1836


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Re: Binks
« Reply #5 on: Monday 18 March 13 22:23 GMT (UK) »
Hopefully JM will see this thread, as she probably can give you the best advice re those Index references, MC.   :)

As for Sydney Binks, there's a couple of references to him on Trove, including the following about his death and inquest....
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/12915261
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/12915351


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« Reply #6 on: Monday 18 March 13 22:34 GMT (UK) »
Sydney Binks
Details

    Alias:            Irish Rebel:           Religion: Protestant       Age on arrival: 19
    Marital status: Single
    Calling/trade: Soldier ploughman shearer
    Born: 1810        Native place: Leicestershire England
    Tried: 1828      Limerick Court Martial          Sentence: 7     Former convictions:
    Ship: Eliza II (2) [1829]
    Crime: Desertion

http://members.pcug.org.au/~ppmay/cgi-bin/irish/irish.cgi?requestType=Search2&id=802

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Re: Binks
« Reply #7 on: Monday 18 March 13 22:45 GMT (UK) »
Thank you.

Yes from the Trove accounts - Sydney's death and the way it came about was not very nice.
And I did wonder about the welfare of the children. There was a coroners inquest as well I found.

Maybe the Wales came from New South Wales? ::) On a few of Sarah's documents she did not name her mother.

MC
Gallen - Dongegal
Comerford - Tipperary
Hurley - Clare
O'Loughlin - Clare

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Re: Binks
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 19 March 13 01:10 GMT (UK) »
Hi MC,

These are all baptism entries from church registers, not birth certificates.  Civil registration of births did not start until 1856.  The only extra info that you will likely find is a father's occupation and place of residence.  Here is an example of a baptism transcription from Marilyn Rowan's website:

http://www.transcriptions.com.au/images/ebirth.pdf


V1848594 67/1848    BINKS    SARAH    SYDNEY    GRACE

Volume 67 is for Roman Catholic baptisms which took place in 1850.  The register likely gives a birth year for the child of 1848.  Was Sarah taken into a Catholic orphanage after the death of her father?  This would probably explain the baptism and the guess of a birth year.

V1850416 141/1850    BINKS    SARAH    SYDNEY    GRACE

The high volume numbers after volume 123 are usually Roman Catholic  registers.  These cannot be viewed on microfilm but must be ordered through the registry or a transcription agent.  I believe this would be for the same baptism as above.  I don't know if one would contain more info than the other, such as sponsor's names, but I would be more inclined to get the second one.

V18492937 39A/1849    BINKS    SARAH    SYDNEY    GRACE

Volume 39 is for Church of England baptisms which took place in 1853.  The "A" indicates that this entry is from the index which is sometimes found in the beginning of a register.  The event is indexed under her year of birth and here is the corresponding entry on FamilySearch

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XTCL-PBW

Not sure what is going on here.  Perhaps she went to another family or back to her mother who had her baptised again.

Clear as mud?

Debra  :)