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Re: Searching John Dyast alias John Cousins vanished after 1856 Bathurst pls help!!!
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 19 March 13 02:19 GMT (UK) »
Thanks, Shaun. You are very precise. Thank you.
How can  I find out if they are one & the same person?
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Re: Searching John Dyast alias John Cousins vanished after 1856 Bathurst pls help!!!
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 19 March 13 08:08 GMT (UK) »
Per the passenger manifest the master of the Volunteer was C L Humphreys.. Arriived Sydney in November 1848.

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Re: Searching John Dyast alias John Cousins vanished after 1856 Bathurst pls help!!!
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 19 March 13 08:09 GMT (UK) »
I looked for a seaman's ticket record for someone called John from Seven Oaks/Sevenoaks and found one for a John Cousens born 20 December 1833 at Seven Oaks. Ticket 393765  issued in London 29 April 1848
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Re: Searching John Dyast alias John Cousins vanished after 1856 Bathurst pls help!!!
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 19 March 13 09:10 GMT (UK) »
 :D This is amazing Shaun, thanks for this. You are a wealth of information. Looks like this is him. Wonder why he used an alias?  ???
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Re: Searching John Dyast alias John Cousins vanished after 1856 Bathurst pls help!!!
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 19 March 13 10:28 GMT (UK) »
Supporting Shane's Shaun's findings  (my apologies for spelling error )

1858 NSW Govt Gazette page 2227

“The undermentioned Convicts have obtained Tickets-of-Leave FOR THE Distrticts set against their respective names.
COLONIAL
BRISBANE:-   John Dyast, per “Volunteer” ………   

Jno McLerie, Inspector General of Police, Convict Department, Sydney 14 Dec 1858. “


1871 South Australian Police Gazette  June 28,  page 103 & 104
“Extract from Queensland Police Gazette 7th June 1871
MISSING FRIENDS.

Information is requested respecting John Cousins, alias John Dyast, who left the town or parish of Sevenoaks, county Kent, at the age of 16 in 1848, as an apprentice or sailor on board the Volunteer, commanded by Captain Humphreys.  Information anxiously requested, as there is something to his advantage to Inspector of Detectives, Brisbane.  29th May 1871.

PS, the use of the word "Colonial" in the 1858 NSW Gazette re Ticket of Leave indicates it was issued in respect of a conviction in the Colonial Courts ....  The fact that the convicted person was not born in the colonies resulted in the name of the "ship of arrival" being listed as part of the identifying information about the Convict (a convict being a person convicted by a lawfully constituted court)

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Re: Searching John Dyast alias John Cousins vanished after 1856 Bathurst pls help!!!
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 19 March 13 10:41 GMT (UK) »
 :) Thanks, JM. This is interesting.  :)
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Re: Searching John Dyast alias John Cousins vanished after 1856 Bathurst pls help!!!
« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 19 March 13 10:53 GMT (UK) »
The cargo of the Volunteer (per SMH 14 Nov 1848):

....35 hogsheads brandy, 40 casks 4 hogsheads and 2 puncheons rum, 50 cans linseed oil, 30 cans boiled oil, 75 tons white salt, 15 tons rock salt, 20 casks turpentine, 300 cases Geneva, 3 half tierces and 2 kegs tobacco, 2 cases perfumed spirits, 277 staves, 6 tierces refined sugar, 19 quarter-casks Portugal wine. 22 boxes and 1 cask prunes, 50 barrels and 11 caroteels currants, 34 bales corks, 5 bales woolpacks, 20 bales bags, 23 bales sacking, 2 hogsheads nuts, 6 boxes and 1 bale almonds, 2 hogsheads and 13 bundles figs, 30 boxes 10 baskets and 10 bundles raisins, and 387 packages British goods.

Subsequent advertisements referring to goods received via the Volunteer also mention canary seed, and french bonnets
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Re: Searching John Dyast alias John Cousins vanished after 1856 Bathurst pls help!!!
« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 19 March 13 11:13 GMT (UK) »
In the 1851 London census there is a Michael Dyas aged 17 from Sevenoaks, held as a prisoner in the police station in Featherstone Street. Could be a sibling.
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Re: Searching John Dyast alias John Cousins vanished after 1856 Bathurst pls help!!!
« Reply #26 on: Tuesday 19 March 13 11:20 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Shaun, an interesting insight into the times. They ate quite well didn't they, dates, almonds & figs etc..mmm, yum, with some rum to wash it all down.  :)
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