Author Topic: Searching John Dyast alias John Cousins vanished after 1856 Bathurst pls help!!!  (Read 11464 times)

Offline iforani

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My g g grandmother, Emma nee Bryant (Briant) married a John Dyast in NSW 1855. To my knowledge they lived at the goldfields at the Kings Plains diggings & had 2 children Ann (or Mary) and Susan in 1856/1857. In 1856, John was charged with horse stealing at Bathurst & sentenced to 5 years hard labour. By 1857, Emma Dyast was living with my g g grandfather, John McKay. On John & Emma's marriage certificate it states that he is from Seven Oaks, Kent, UK, though noone has been able to trace where he came from; someone found out that a Comfort & a William Dyast lived in Staffordshire (Census) 1851, though there is no known connection to John. According to 1871 Police gazettes he is listed as a missing person.

In the ancestry samplers he is listed in the police gazette, 23rd Dec 1858 as living in Brisbane but I can't find these. Any help here would be appreciated. It states in another gazette that it is believed that he went to San Francisco in 1849 but this is dubious as he is in Australia in 1855-6, in NSW, looking for gold.  ???

Any help would be appreciated. Thank you. :) :)
McKay (Kildare, Ireland), Aldred (Manchester), Smith, Cooper (Kent), Howlett, Bodill, Atkins (Northamptonshire), Smart (UK, Africa), Brown, Bryant, Dixon, Walton

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That NSW Police Gazette entry for 1858 must refer to Brisbane, NSW. I have found the entry which is about the grant of ticket-of-leave to convict John Dyast, per "Volunteer", age 24, native of Kent,  trade laborer, height 5' 4 1/2 '', complexion sallow, hair dark, eyes brown.
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see http://srwww.records.nsw.gov.au/indexes/searchhits.aspx?table=Convict%20Index&id=65&frm=1&query=Vessel:Volunteer .

This is the only hit that came up for the "Volunteer" in the NSW records
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Queensland Police Gazette 7 Jun 1871:

DYAST John Missing friend; information is requested respecting John Cousins, alias John Dyast, who left the town or parish of Seven Oaks, county Kent, at the age of 15, in 1848, as an apprentice on board the ship "Volunteer," commanded by Captain Humphreys; information anxiously requested, as there is something to his advantage.
Volume VIII/Page 54

Queensland Police Gazette 5 Jul 1871:

DYAST John Missing friend; information is requested respecting John Cousins, alias John Dyast, who left the town or parish of Seven Oaks, county Kent, at the age of 15, in 1848, as an apprentice or sailor on board the ship "Volunteer," commanded by Captain Humphreys; information anxiously requested, as there is something to his advantage.
Volume VIII/Page 63


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I was doing some surname searhing when Merlins post came through. John Cousins was living aged seven born 1834 with what I presume to be his Grandparents (maternal) William Cooper 65 and Susanna Cooper 50 at Sevenoaks Kent in the parish of Seal and their address is is given as Godden Green.\

While surname searching I came across a referance to the Name Dyast and Dyas which is actually DYSON. There are quite a few Dyson in Sevenoaks as well. So the presumed name is actually old english Dyson.

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In 1860 Sydney a 26 year old John Dyson died birth year 1834 ::) No parent names.

Ref # 1315/1860

Modified: there is also this entry from NSW BDM.
V18609023 122B/1860 JOHN COUSINS, NO PARENTS LISTED OR AGE

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Just noting that there's an English sailor by the name of John Deas in San Francisco in the 1870 US census and in the California voter registrations for 1868, 1875 and 1876. Age varies but seems to have been born between 1831 and 1839
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Hi there,

I don't find it unusual for anyone to have left NSW in 1849 for California and then to have returned to NSW in the 1850s .... off to California with severe case of Gold Fever and back to NSW still suffering from Gold Fever, particularly if on returning to NSW to then head up to Bathurst, Carcoar etc.   

Also, while Brisbane is the capital city for the state of Queensland, in 1858 Queensland had not yet been hived off from NSW, so Brisbane NSW would have been the way to list it in Govt Gazettes.

What I have noticed in a couple of quick online searches .....  :)

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/12984165  SMH 27 June 1856.  John Dyast in Goulburn
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/63594196 10 March 1869 Bathurst Free Press.  Emma Dyast, John McKay, William Rosthorne  (Emma states she is not married  :) )


http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/familyHistory/familyHistory.htm
 :) NSW BDM online index has a birth registered for a female child, surname DYAST, parents as John and Emma.  Birth registered at Carcoar (that’s near to King’s Plains) …. Ref 4198.
 :) NSW BDM online index ....  an Early Church Record (ie not a civil registration) for a marriage in 1855 for a John Dyast and Emma Briant, (in the C of E parish register, Carcoar).   The parish register itself may well have more details than the NSW BDM document.

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http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/19087264 Brisbane Courier 20 May 1901

LONDON, May 19.
Private John Cousins, of the Queensland Bushmen's Contingent, has died from inflammation at Pretoria


Boer War, he would perhaps be quite elderly  ::) if the missing John Dyast  ::)

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