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« on: Monday 18 March 13 00:37 GMT (UK) »
I am researching a ggg grandmother named Sarah Ann Dolby. She was apparently born in London in 1827 and arrived in Australia on Feb 6th 1840. At this time she would have been 12 years old. Obviously she would have travelled with family. I believe she arrived on the "Java" from London to Port Adelaide, only there is no record of her on the passenger list. I have heard that these lists aren't always accurate. There is mention of her arriving on the Java in at least one Trove article I have seen.

I am wondering if anybody can put me onto a good website to get passenger lists, not just South Australia, but anywhere. The ones I am using at the moment are familyhistorysa and slsa.sa.gov.au

I am at a dead end at the moment. I don't know who she came out with, but I have the names Samuel and Charlotte. I cant remember where I got these from.

Lyn

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Re: Free Shipping Record Sources
« Reply #1 on: Monday 18 March 13 11:02 GMT (UK) »
This one might be worth a try; - navigating around it is a little tricky to start with, but you get used to it  ;)

http://mariners.records.nsw.gov.au/shipdate.htm
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Re: Free Shipping Record Sources
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 19 March 13 04:55 GMT (UK) »
Try resources page here.
Butcher Westmorland and Lancashire
Barton Westmorland and Yorkshire
Trethowan,Reeves Middlesex
Halsall,Green,Charters,Chatterton Lancashire
Smith, Moger, Maxfield Wiltshire
Woods,Speechley and Coles Huntingdonshire
Gibson,Blanks,Monk,Fokes Essex

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« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 19 March 13 12:49 GMT (UK) »
Hi Lyn,

I have had a look at some other shipping lists with no luck. They all seem incredibly short when you look at trove and see that there were 23 passengers and 470 emigrants.

I have included this list for you to look at and it also includes a reference to the troubled voyage which is also mentioned in the trove article I have listed. There is also an interesting "Letter to the Editor" from the Surgeon to the Ship denying any wrongdoing as he had "nothing to do with the emigrants" 20th Feb 1840. As the below shows there was a Medical Board Enquiry and a Royal Commission. Your ancestor was obviously was made of strong stuff to survive the journey!!

http://gekkos.tripod.com/ships/java.htm

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/71619093?searchTerm=java%20emigrants&searchLimits=l-decade=184|||l-year=1840

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Re: Free Shipping Record Sources
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 08 July 14 10:47 BST (UK) »
Hi,
Have just found this. I have a link to the ship Java, although not to the ships captain (we share the same surname).

My link is with a GGG Grandfather and family who arrived on this vessel. I find it amazing that the ships surgeon could have the nerve to wash his hands of any care to the 400 odd emigrants. I understand that a large percentage of the deaths on this passage were children... :(

There is a book written by Stephen Michael Barnett titled JAVA, I found my copy at the South Australian Maritime Museum (sorry I do not know how to install a link to the museum). This book has lots of info including a passenger list for the February 1840 voyage.

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« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 29 June 16 15:10 BST (UK) »
Daisy,

I know I'm a bit late to this thread, but I might have some information relevant to your earlier queries:
1. Was she a convict?
2. Who were her parents.
3. When did she arrive? What was the name of the ship and what is a good website to get this info?
4. Did she have any siblings?
5. Did she ever marry? I don't think she did because she was referred to as "Mrs Emmett" in her death notice (trove.com). 1899
6. What happened to her after E.N. Emmett left her? I have found one reference to Jane Dolby lining up for destitute relief, having three children by Emmett. But that is Jane, not Sarah.
7. Was her father or mother a convict.

I'm a descendant of Henry James Emmett (who arrived a free settler in Hobart Town in 1819), father of Edward Nucella Emmett.  I don't have much historical information about the Emmett side of my family, BUT I'm currently editing a manuscript written by my Grandfather (E T Emmett) but not published before he died.

I would describe the book as an historical novel, in that it is based on the lives of the Emmetts after their arrival in Hobart, but Grandad has changed the names of family members to protect their privacy (even though they're all now deceased!).

However there are two chapters that deal with a romance between one of the Emmett boys and the daughter of a convict, and we believe that boy to be Edward Nucella Emmett.  Given the dates this romance occurred around, I also believe the girl to be Sarah Ann Dolby.

Because Grandad changed all the names, I can't be sure, but the dates fit.  If you want to PM me your e-mail address I could send you a few chapters of the draft book that deal with Edward and Sarah (named James and Rebecca in the book), and her father, known as Mr Grieve in the book, who was assigned to Henry James Emmett as a servant.  He was not a bad man, but ended up an 'accidental convict' because of unfortunate circumstances.  But he did some good for my ancestors, if Grandad's book is to be believed (it's supposedly based on the letters and journals of his ancestors), and was subsequently granted his freedom and was then able to bring his wife and children out from the UK, one presumably being Sarah.

Wikipedia has a page about Edward Nucella Emmett which mentions his (de facto) relationship with Sarah.  (My grandfather, E T Emmett, also has a Wikipedia page.)

Daniel