1922 Army Census. (Marlborough Hall)

[margnip2]

Hi all.

I have found my granddad on the army census for 1922.  It shows that he was at Marlborough Hall Glasnevin, the stamp on the census says convalescent home.  Can any one tell me about this place, and is it still standing.  Also why would my granddad have been there?  All help much appreciated.

Thanks.

[shanew147]

Probably associated with Marlborough barracks, off Blackhorse lane, beside Phoenix park.

It's now called McKee barracks.


Shane

[shanew147]

found a listing for the Hall in 1914, under Glasnevin

  Marlborough Hall - Men's residence of Marlborough St. Training College
  - principal and professor, M. Cochrane McClelland, LL. B
  - principal's assistant , John Warnock, B.A.
  - matron, Miss Sarah P. Devine

will check later directories tomorrow..


S.

[annclare]

Marlborough Hall was the Army convalescent home until about 1924. It not longer exists the met Eireann building is now on the site.
Link to photograph in NLI site
http://catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000316883

[shanew147]

Thom's 1921 shows Marlborough Hall still as as the residence for the training college, and in 1923 it's shown as :

  Marlborough Hall (Training college)
    premises in occupation of military

by 1927 the hall appears in the listing as 'vacant'.



S.

[annclare]

Shane
I had a relative in the Army c.1923 and he was sent to Marlborough Hall as he was medically unfit. I inquired from the Military Archives about Marlborough and this is an extract from a reply I got.

....the history of Marlboro Hall is as follows Marlboro Hall is in Glasnevin; out files show that the lands belonged at the time to the Ministry of Education. The Hall was occupied by the British Military on 6 January 1921 when the hall was occupied by female students and a teaching body.  The female students and teachers were temporarily accommodated in the Allen Hotel (also known as the Harcourt Buildings).The Irish troops occupied Marlboro Hall on 7 March 1922 and evacuated same on 23 May 1922.  From 12 June to the end of August, the Hall was controlled by the Ministry for Local Government and was used to house refugees from Northern Ireland. The hall was fitted out as an army convalescence home and was occupied by patients and medical staff from 26 September 1922.  Marlboro Hall ceased to be a convalescence home mid 1924 with proposal to set up a home in the Curragh......
Regards
annclare

[margnip2]

Thanks to you both for your help. 

Again makes more questions than it answers, why was he there, how long was he there for?  Another track to go down in the family history trail.   Family story was that he did get shot, twice, but everyone assumed it was while he was in the old IRA.  Maybe it was during the Civil War after all.

Would there still be any records from the Hall and if so where could they be found?

[shanew147]

If he's on that census, then he was in the Free State Army - possibly some illness, or maybe Civil War injury.

Based on details annclare has, and also directories, the hall was only used by the Army for a very short time - a year or two at most, and it no longer exists. I suspect there are no records remaining specific to the hall. Maybe keep checking the IrishMilitaryArchives for additional record sets.

Have you applied for his record from Cathal Brugha Barracks or Renmore ?
Think you have to be able to prove you are a direct relation or next-of-kin, and it takes quite a while for the search - sometimes more than a year, but usually well worth the wait.


Shane

[margnip2]

Thanks shanew147,

I have got his Army Records and his Pension Application.  Army Records are just a couple of pages with not much info on, but it does say he was transferred to Marlborough (no mention of barracks or hall nor date).  His pension application doesn't mention it at all.