Thanks Gaffy Had seen it on a free search at a P2V site but only knew Galway not Gort. Unfortunately she is the only birth showing up in Galway to a William and Bridget nee anything. The dates are very close though. Verbal history says John was an only child but another of my Greats had the same story told. Turned out to be one of 12 births , but the only one to survive childhood. That name Bridget McMahon is so common and William Butler is hardly rare either so had tagged it as a maybe but possible double up.