My Surname Interests - LINGLEY and others

[Gaie]

Hi

I'm researching the following family names:

LYNLYE
LINDLY
LINDLEY
LINGLY
LINGLEY
WOODGATE
BREWER
SOMERSET
SNELL
STEVENS
GLADWELL
JONAS
DAY
FARTHING
CLARKE
PARTRIDGE
SEAGER/SEGGER/VINCE


Gaie

[coppernob]

Hi More names & date for Lingley/Lindley Please they crop up in my 'sideways' tree.

[Vella]

Seggers/Seager

I have just found out that my 2xgrt grandmother Sarah was a servant in the household of Issac Seggers, Harwich ST Nicholas in the 1851 census. Isaac was 77 then and there was also a daughter Ann aged 35 living there too.
If you have anymore information on this family I would be interested to learn of it as the family story goes that the son of the household (possibly named JOHN) was the father of Sarah's illegitimate son.
 

[Gaie]

Hello Vella
Well, the Seggar-s/Seggers/Vince lot do seem to be surrounded by mischief, don't they 

This Isaac Seggers (in the 1841, Seggars in the 1851) was an Essex-born one, and a customs officer at that.

In the 1841:
West Street, Harwich, Essex, amongst mariners, merchants and those of independent means
Isaac SEGGERS, 65, Officer of Customs, born in Essex
Isaac SEGGERS, 35, born in Essex
Ann SEGGERS, 25, born in Essex
Harriett SEGGERS, 20, born in Essex
Sarah A COWMAN, 3, born in foreign parts (not Scotland or Ireland).

As the 1841 had no relationship to head of household category it is not clear who this Sarah Cowman is, but the image shows her to be in the house that night.

My Seggar/Seggers were ag labs from Kersey in Suffolk, at least 20 miles from Harwich, so I don't know if there's any connection that we can find, but who knows...

Kind regards
Gaie

[Gaie]

Oh my gosh, Coppernob, I must have missed your posting, sorry  - and so long ago 

Ok, the Lingleys I have are centred around Groton, Kersey, Lavenham and other places in the Cosford District.

John LINGLEY, blacksmith,  b 1823 Groton
married
1.)  8/3/1850 Lindsey to Sarah Ann PARTRIDGE b 1823 Kersey, d 1850, no children.
2.)  7/7/1855 Kersey to Eliza PARTRIDGE b 1828 Kersey, d 1862
children: Anna Maria 1856 Kersey, Emma 1858 Kersey, Eliza 1859 Ipswich, Henry 1860 Nayland
3.)  6/2/1870 Kersey to Sarah VINCE SEAGER b 1/3/1840 Kersey
Sarah already had a child, Alice VINCE b 1866 Kersey, no father named on birth certificate, but was always known as Alice LINGLEY thereafter.

John's parents were:
William LINDLEY/LINLEY/LINGLY, blacksmith, b 1793 Little Waldingfield, d 1837 Hadleigh
married 26/12/1817 Lindsey to Susan FARTHING, b 1793 Hadleigh

William's parents:
Roger LINDLEY/LINGLEY, blacksmith, b 1772 Lavenham, d 1847 Lavenham
married 29/5/1792 Little Waldingfield to Anne LINDLEY/LINGLEY (their grandfathers were brothers)  b 1767 Lavenham

This LINGLY/LINGLEY/LINDLEY line can be traced back to Samuel LINDLEY c 1660 in Lavenham, and they were blacksmiths where the occupation can be found.

I've got siblings for each generation (apart from Samuel senior and his wife Sarah HAMILTON) and some of the maternal lines.

Kind regards
Gaie

[coppernob]

Hi I have

Samuel Lingley b lavenham Marr Martha  Woodgate b Lavenham
son Samuel b Lavenham Marr Mary Brewer
They had a son Thomas  marr Susan Day
they had son Thomas marr Mary Deacon
Son William marr Elizabeth Theobald
3 daughters sophia, sarah, maria all b Lavenham

Sophia marr Arthur Diggins b Gt waldingfield
Sarah marr Robert King b Gt Waldingfield
Maria marr Henry King 

Do any of these fit into your tree,   as I said they are a distant branch in my tree but, still interesting tho.

Coppernob   

ps you are forgiven as I have been kept busy with the main trunk of my tree

[Gaie]

Hi Coppernob
Thanks for the absolution, and to Vella for inadvertently drawing my attention to you
Yes, they're the same family!
Your Thomas who married Mary Dacon/Deacon was the brother of the Roger 1772-1849 that I mentioned above, both blacksmiths.  I think the Lingleys/Lindleys must have cornered the market in blacksmith matters in that area of Suffolk.

I'm descended from Alice Lingley 1866, who was born Alice Vince; her mother married John Lingley in 1870 and Alice assumed the name Lingley from the 1871 Census onwards (more likely it was assumed for her!).  We had no idea she possibly wasn't really a Lingley until we couldn't find her birth registered as Lingley and  a cousin found her as Vince.  So unless John fathered her after his second wife's death and then eventually did the decent thing and married her mother, genetically we are not Lingleys.  Meantime we had galloped backwards through the Lingley tree with great joy (thank you Ray of the Cosford Database!!); just goes to show, check every step of the way, Rootschatters

But my mother remembers Alice, her grandmother, and Alice's step-sibling Eliza (who never married and lived until her death in the 1930s in my grandmother's house); my mother used to stay with Emma and her family in Manningtree, and Anna Maria's family in Gloucestershire when she was a little girl, so they were actively "family" to her.

Funnily enough the picture I use by my name is of Alice when she was a young woman.  It was recently sent to me by the same cousin.  We'd only got photos of her when she was much older, so it was a lovely surprise.

Kind regards
Gaie

[coppernob]

Hi Gaie

Welcome to the family, even if it make us very much distantly related. Here goes trying to explain where I fit in

Thomas & Mary had a son William b 1794 he married Elizabeth Theobald   Their daughter Sophia married Arthur Diggins, Now Arthur's mother was Melicent Amelia Andrews, Millies father was Samuel Andrews and Samuel's parents wereJohn Andrews b 1744 and Hannah Long b1740 now Hannah had a sister Bridget whom am descended from.

Like you I sent many thanks to Ray Long of the cosford database.  The woodgates come into my family with the Parmenters in my gt ( or maybe Gt Gt grandfathers generation.

It is a tangled family I do know that.

Good luck in your continued research

Coppernob

[wardyfam]

Hi,
Just adding an attachment for you on a few of my Lingley/Lindley's who descend from Samuel LINGLEY abt1650 Lavenham and Sarah HAMILTON abt1660 Glemsford, marriage place and date 9 Jan 1686 Glemsford...they come from the outer branches on my tree.

Martha WOODGATE 1683-1744 Lavenham who married Samuel LINGLEY 1688-1751

Also in my tree I have...
Harriet CLARKE 1805-1850 Rede, who is my ggx2 grandmother. She married John COCKLE (Hanslip) 1802-1884 Rede on the 27 June 1826 in Rede.

Jeremiah STEVENS 1716-1801 Lavenham who married Martha LINGLEY 1714-1781 Lavenham on 8 Sep 1751 in Lavenham and their son Samuel STEVENS (down as Stevins) 1854 Lavenham.

Susan DAY 1732 Lavenham who married Thomas LINGLEY on the 20 Oct 1757 Lavenham and their 4 daughters and 2 sons...one of whom was their youngest child...
Roger LINGLEY 1772-1747 Lavenham who married Ann LINDLEY 1767 on 29 May 1792 Lavenham. They had 3 daughters and 7 sons.

William LINGLEY 1793-1837 Little Waldingfield who married Susan FARTHING (details unknown) on 26 Dec 1817 Lindsey Suffolk.

Mary SNELL 1715-1777 (pob unknown) who married William LINDLEY 1710 Lavenham on 7 Mar 1735 Lavenham. They had 3 sons...
William LINDLEY (the eldest son) married...
Ann SOMERSET (no details for her) on 12 Dec 1766.
It was their daughter Ann LINDLEY 1767 (above) who married William LINGLEY 1793-1837.

Susan GLADWELL 1742-1769 Lavenham who married John LINGLEY 1736-1804 Lavenham on 25 Dec 1766 Lavenham.
Anne JONAS 1733-1815 Lavenham second wife of John LINGLEY married on 19 March 1779 Lavenham.

That's about it, I don't think I have anymore for you.

Pat x