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Re: A Mystery
« Reply #27 on: Sunday 10 March 13 16:42 GMT (UK) »
If Walton Breck Road is in North Everton, then two years before 1913 a Davies family were there.
Daniel Davies 50 b Liverpool
Mary wife 50 b St Helens
Daniel son 19 single b Liverpool
Joseph son 14 b "

Not many clues there unfortunately.  ???
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Re: A Mystery
« Reply #28 on: Sunday 10 March 13 18:24 GMT (UK) »
Harry Lot Ellis appears in a 1939 Kelly's directory in Worton Wilts as a shopkeeper and post office.

Many thanks Carol...maybe Harry is his birth name...the question now is whether he is indeed a Wiltshire boy born and bred, as I (have) always thought, or whether the marriage between Winifred and Harry in Q1 1916 mentioned by another kind soul below is indeed the right pair / marriage, and Harry is a Scouser...


There was nothing to stop a "Wiltshire lad " marrying in Ormskirk!  As you know Winifred had a connection with Liverpool, having given birth there, and the Ellis Jones marriage in 1916 is the only likely one to be found and that there was a person called Harry Lot Ellis of the correct age alive at the time, I think the circumstantial evidence is quite strong that this marriage is the correct couple. Possibly Winifred went away to have the baby in 1913 and didn't reappear in Wiltshire until she was respectably married 3 or more years later.

In any case, Maxwell doesn't seem to have been Harry Lot Ellis's son since he is not named on Maxwell's birth cert, so the only chance you have to follow your patrilineal line further is to find out more about Winifred, which you can only do with certainty by ordering her wedding cert.  As it looks like the wedding was in a Registry Office, buying the cert is the only way to check her age and father's name and occupation.
Perrins - Manchester and Staffs
Honan - Manchester and Ireland
Hogg - Manchester 19 cent
Anderson - Newcastle mid 19 cent
Boullen - London then Carlisle then Manchester
Comer - Manchester and Galway

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Re: A Mystery
« Reply #29 on: Sunday 10 March 13 21:19 GMT (UK) »

added...not allowed to publish 1911 census ...but does anyone know what this stands for
Worton Potterne S O ...is this some type of military camp ???

Think it means they live at Worton but the post goes via Potterne Sorting Office.  There are lots of Wootons, Wottons, Wortons etc, so probably to avoid confusion.
Perrins - Manchester and Staffs
Honan - Manchester and Ireland
Hogg - Manchester 19 cent
Anderson - Newcastle mid 19 cent
Boullen - London then Carlisle then Manchester
Comer - Manchester and Galway

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Re: A Mystery
« Reply #30 on: Monday 11 March 13 19:03 GMT (UK) »
Harry Lot Ellis appears in a 1939 Kelly's directory in Worton Wilts as a shopkeeper and post office.

Many thanks Carol...maybe Harry is his birth name...the question now is whether he is indeed a Wiltshire boy born and bred, as I (have) always thought, or whether the marriage between Winifred and Harry in Q1 1916 mentioned by another kind soul below is indeed the right pair / marriage, and Harry is a Scouser...

I can see now how one can spend months, years or a lifetime with this kind of research!
IF WE BELIEVE the 1901 census  Harry Lott Ellis b 1886 Worton,Devizes ,Wiltshire ...and the census was taken 31st March 1901 in Lavington,Worton ,Wilts ...so I would be 99% certain he was born in Worton ...or even Lavington ,Worton to be precise ...can someone post that census detail in full with Harry - parents - and siblings please ??
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added...not allowed to publish 1911 census ...but does anyone know what this stands for
Worton Potterne S O ...is this some type of military camp ???

 1901  census

William Ellis  54 born Marston Wiltshire
Sarah Elliss 56 born Ecklestoke Wiltshire
Albert  aged  26 Marston  Wiltshire
Lucy   21  Worton
Frederick  18 Worton
Lott  15  Worton
William Ellis aged 1    grandson  born Worton   All the men  folk are Ag Labs ( except   little William   of  course )

address  is  given as 'In the Villiage'  ie Worton


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Re: A Mystery
« Reply #31 on: Monday 11 March 13 19:15 GMT (UK) »
  Harrys birth
 Dec Qtr 1885
  Harry Lot Ellis  Devizes  5a 109

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Re: A Mystery
« Reply #32 on: Sunday 21 April 19 23:08 BST (UK) »
If anyone is still following this thread, I can add the following details:-
 Harry Lott Ellis born 18 Oct 1885 - Baptised 07 Feb 1886, Christ Church, Worton
 Winifred born 11 Dec 1888
 William Edward Ellis born 06 Sep 1916


HAMMERTON: Berks/Bucks/Marylebone
BANCROFT/PEACH/WOODWARD: Derby
MILLER/RANDALL: Ixworth/Pakenham
POLLARD: Ixworth/Chelsea/Paddington
KING/BOOTH: Crowland/Peterborough
CLAYTON/TRATT: Holborn/Clerkenwell
DE{U/I}T{S}CHMAN{N}: Russia/Whitechapel/Spitalfields

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Re: A Mystery
« Reply #33 on: Monday 22 April 19 07:20 BST (UK) »
Hi Paul,

The original poster Mergendy hasn't been online since 10 April 15, if they still have the same email address,they will be notified that we have both posted here.
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