GRONI records to On-line November 2013

[scotmum]

Although I still haven't, for some reason, had a reply to my email of Monday about the stored searches issue, I have had a very prompt and helpful reply already to one sent before lunchtime today, about a probable mis-transcription I spotted:

Thank you for bringing that to our attention. I have checked the original register and can confirm that the maiden name was mis-transcribed when the entries were computerised. The correct name should be ****** as you have stated. I have passed this to our Project Team who will correct this in due course,

 

Now if I could only find the missing 1923 death entry for another chap. Pity the search insists on a surname (or first three letters of one), as if it has been mis-transcribed, there is little chance of hitting on it, even though I have an exact date of death (if PRONI will calendar is to be trusted, that is).

[Elwyn Soutter]

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Now if I could only find the missing 1923 death entry for another chap. Pity the search insists on a surname (or first three letters of one), as if it has been mis-transcribed, there is little chance of hitting on it, even though I have an exact date of death (if PRONI will calendar is to be trusted, that is).
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If you know the date and exact place of death, you could e-mail GRONI and say you are surprised there’s no match. Perhaps there’s been a transcription error. Could they search the original register for you? They might do that free.

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Just to let you know I did get a response today re Saved Searches and Error messages. They gave me a choice to receive a refund or have my credits re-established. Again they indicated it would be Friday before the thing got fixed. I did suggest that they put up a notice when the repairs were complete as fixes often take longer than expected and it would save a lot of frustration on both sides of the Atlantic
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[scotmum]

If you know the date and exact place of death, you could e-mail GRONI and say you are surprised there’s no match. Perhaps there’s been a transcription error. Could they search the original register for you? They might do that free.

 

I have done, Elwyn, and they aren't finding it either. Just in case, I've also checked and he is not on indexes for Scotland, England, Wales or Southern Ireland, albeit I have no reason anyhow to suspect that he died anywhere other than Northern Ireland. His death fits with changes in the Valuation Revision books, and his surname was consistent throughout his life and on will (give or take a few minor spelling variations), although I have now asked if GRONI can check with only forename and date of death, in case for some odd reason he was registered under an entirely different surname. Still puzzling over this one. Have asked GRONI if they would kindly check again. He had a son that moved to Scotland, but as said, no sign that the father died there. And likewise, a daughter who moved to America, but again, no sign he had visited her there (indeed, she and her hubby and children visited him in 1922). His remaining family lived local to where I believe he died.

Anyhow, aside from above, just thought I would update the thread (in case others have experienced likewise) that whilst I am receiving emails fine from GRONI on this matter and the other mis-transcript matter I contacted them about, oddly, I have still not received any reply to my email of Monday about the 'error' page issue......just as well others here have at least explained that it is a known issue and being worked on.

[scotmum]

Whilst typing previous post, have had following email response from GRONI:

It is not that the death registration is missing but that it was not registered.

 

[Elwyn Soutter]

The PRONI probate file and on-line abstracts should both record the precise place of death. (The information appears on the estate duty form B1 which ought to be in the Probate file). So you should be able to clarify from that exactly where he died. If there’s no death certificate in the relevant registration sub district, then Sherlock Holmes would suggest that what you are left with is has to be the explanation ie that the death wasn’t registered.

I know from personal experience that today you cannot apply for probate without a death certificate but perhaps this was not always so. You could ring the Probate Office in Belfast and ask them what the procedure would have been in 1923.

[glensman]

Scotsmum - if you have the date and the area, a newspaper death notice might be a possibility.

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Morning Scotmum
If you want I would be glad to check out the Belfast Newsletter for you as I have a membership on Ancestry and the BNL has been very useful over time. You could send a PM . Your call
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[scotmum]

Thanks for input, yes, the PRONI abstract entry has him at what was his usual address, no other address mentioned. Will cross check my notes to see if I have previously looked for a death notice for him on the newspaper microfilms I searched before - if not, will check when I next get opportunity. Was just interested to see his cause of death and who of his family, if any, was present.  Again, no obvious thoughts as to why they wouldn't have registered it. No known estrangement with them and assumed it would have been needed for his burial. Maybe if anyone looking in on this thread is heading to PRONI soon, they could PM me for details and kindly check the record associated with the online abstract.Meantime, as Elwyn has suggested, I will contact probate office and ask if they needed sight of a certificate back in 1923.