1851 Census Look-up request - Stapleton

[johnlauper]

I wonder if someone could help with a look-up in the 1851 Census for Stapleton. I'm looking for John Irving who would have been about 5 years old. His parents were Thomas and Jane Irving. It's possible that he may have been living with his mother's family named Kennedy (head of house would be Richard Kennedy, a carpenter).

Many thanks

John

[kena]

Hi, these are also my Kennedys as well!, There is a Richard Kennedy aged 58 ( born in Stapleton) who was a master joiner, His wife Mary Kennedy nee Armstrong also aged 58 ( born in Bewcastle), my 4 times great grandparents. They also had a son called David aged 33 (my 3 times great grandfather) born in Stapleton who was a joiner, a daughter called Ann Watson aged 31 who was married ( I don't know who to) born in Stapleton, a son called James aged 28 born in Stapleton who was a joiner, a daughter called Margaret aged 21 born in Stapleton who was a dressmaker, a daughter called Elizabeth aged 19 born in Stapleton, a son called Archibald aged 17 born in Stapleton who was a joiner apprentice, a son called Clement aged 15 born in Stapleton who was a scholar, a grandson called John Irving who was 5 and born in Stapleton and a granddaughter called Mary Bell Kennedy aged 2 and born in Abbey Lanercost. They were all living at a farm called Longrigg in Stapleton at the time. I have more information on Richard Kennedy's  parents and grandparents if you need it. Have you got any other information on the siblings of Richard and Mary Kennedy and any other further generations back?

[johnlauper]

Thanks very much for this information, its very helpful. Just a shame John Irving wasn't with his parents as I'd hoped! (Would it be possible for you to check if there's a Thomas Irving aged about 29 living in Stapleton in the 1851 census. He might be a widower.) I'm actually doing this research on behalf of a family friend who is the grandson of John Irving, and therefore the great great grandson of Richard Kennedy. I've found that John Irving also became a carpenter by trade when he moved to London with his uncle John Kennedy, also a carpenter, who I'm presuming is Richard and Mary's oldest son as he was aged 55 at the time of the 1871 census.

I'd certainly be interested in any more info you have on Richard Kennedy's parents and grandparents. Unfortunately I haven't got any more info on the siblings of Richard and Mary or their ancestors, but if I find anything in my future research I'll certainly let you have it.

Kind regards

John

[kena]

Hi, Thanks very much for the message, I have known of Richard Kennedy and Mary Armstrong for a long time as my dad sat down with the vicar at Stapleton and went through the parish records looking for Kennedys about 40 years ago when he was in his teens!. I know the names of Richard Kennedy's parents who are a Ann Gillesby 1750 - 1834 and David Kennedy 1742 - 1816 ( a parish clerk) of The Breakings ( another farm in Stapleton). Richard also had a sister called Mary ( who is on the gravestone of her parents in Stapleton) 1784 - 1845. David Kennedy's father was called John Kennedy born 1720 of Mossthorn Gate (another farm in Stapleton). That is all I know for now. I did not know of Richard Kennedy's son John however. Would it be possible for you to give me any more info on him?

I am really sorry, I have had a good look through my 1851 transcripts and can't find a Thomas Irving anywhere. I also have the 1841 census for Cumberland though, do you want me to have a look for them in there?

[johnlauper]

Thanks very much for this additional info.

I have found John Kennedy in the 1861, 1871 and 1881 censuses living in Lambeth, London. He was already a widower, aged 45, by 1861 and is shown with two children Mary, aged 16, a pupil teacher, and Ann, aged 14, both born in Lambeth so he'd heen living there for quite some time. In 1871 he's living with John Irving and by 1881 he's living on his own. If you want images from any or all of these censuses just give me your email address and I'll send them to you.

If you can look for Thomas Irving in the 1841 census as well that would be most appreciated.

Many thanks

John

[kena]

Hi, I have had a look on the 1841 census for Stapleton for you and have found a Mary Irving who was a servant at the time, a John Irving who was a agricultural labourer and another Irving who was about 20 but who had a christian name I couldn't really read very well so I'm very sorry but no concrete Thomas Irving I'm afraid. I did however look on another site for you that I've used for some of my ancestors in the past which has baptism, marriage and burial records for Stapleton from 1813 to about 1839 on it and found a Thomas Irving baptised on 2nd March 1823, a child of James Irving of Sikehead, a Husbandman and Mary Armstrong, Mother's abode Cracrop (Mary Armstrong was a spinster)

Hope this helps

[Kennedy Ontario]

Hello,

Hoping we may have a connection to your Richard Kennedy of Stapleton. 
KENNEDY

Husband: James Kennedy b. 1795 d. ? Likely Toronto, Ontario, Canada?
Wife: Dinah Foster b. 1798 d. August 12, 1879 (83) York (Toronto), Ontario, Canada
Marriage: December 25, 1815 Stapleton, Cumberland, England
Children:
Thomas b. March 16, 1817 Roundgreen d. Dereham, Ontario
Ann b. January 24, 1819 Longrigg d. ?
David b. February 27, 1820 Glebes d. ?
Margaret b. July 7, 1822 White Close d. ?
Dinah b. January 23, 1825 White Close d. ?
Jane b. June 17, 1827 Dorryfield d. ?
James b. 1832, England
Elizabeth b. July 14, 1839 Toronto, Ontario (married David Turnbull)

Cumberland Roots

http://www.cumberlandroots.co.uk/STAPBAP.htm

Possible Stapleton Death

Entry No. 0121 ; 19 Apr 1819 Ann KENNEDY of Longrigg ; Infant

Stapleton Kennedy Children Baptisms

Entry No. 083 ; 16 Mar 1817 Thos child of James & Dinah KENNEDY of Roundgreen , a Carpenter
Entry No. 133 ; 24 Jan 1819 Ann child of James & Dinah KENNEDY of Longrigg , a Labourer
Entry No. 158 ; 27 Feb 1820 David child of James & Dinah KENNEDY of Glebes Land , a Labourer
Entry No. 230 ; 07 July 1822 Margaret child of James & Dinah KENNEDY of White Close , a Carpenter
Entry No. 307 ; 23 Jan 1825 Dinah child of James & Dinah KENNEDY of White Close , a Carpenter
Entry No. 377 ; 17 Jun 1827 Jane child of James & Dinah KENNEDY of Dorryfield , a Carpenter

Stapleton Marriages Index 1813 to 1839

024 25 Dec 1815 James KENNEDY of Stapleton & Dinah FOSTER of Stapleton married by Banns Witnesses were William Armstrong Ann Foster (X)
FOSTER Dinah ( 024 ); Mary ( 069 ); Peter ( 110 ); Sarah ( 077 );
024 25 Dec 1815 James KENNEDY of Stapleton & Dinah FOSTER of Stapleton married by Banns Witnesses were William Armstrong Ann Foster (X)
069 17 Aug 1826 Archibald GOODFELLOW Widower of Stapleton & Mary FOSTER Spinster of Lanercost married by Licence Witnesses were George Graham Elenor Graham
077 10 May 1828 Thomas GOODFELLOW Batcherlor of Stapleton & Sarah FOSTER Spinster of Stapleton married by Banns Witnesses were Joseph Foster Mary Goodfellow
110 16 Aug 1834 Peter FOSTER Bachelor of Stapleton & Jane CROSBIE Spinster of Stapleton married by Banns Witnesses were William Halliday Isabella Murdoch

Immigration from Stapleton to Toronto about 1832

James and Dinah (Foster) Kennedy including 6 children (a few born Toronto) immigrated from Stapleton, Cumberland England to Toronto, Canada about 1832

Note:
There's another possible brother of James Kennedy named Hugh Kennedy b. abt 1795, Northhumberland, England who immigrated to Canada abt 1820 and married Mary Dixon. We think James and Hugh are related, because we found a descendant female, daughter of Thomas Kennedy, son of James Kennedy, Sarah Foster Kennedy who was married in the home of Henry and Elizabeth (Kennedy) Scofield the month of April of 1868, Ingersoll, Oxford County, Ontario, Canada. A descendant of James (his son's daughter) is being married in the home of a descendant (daughter) of Hugh.

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