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Re: Vernon in Islington
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 07 March 13 15:11 GMT (UK) »
1909 Electoral roll gives Harry James Vernon living at 20 Manor Gardens 2 unfurnished basement flat.


Good find :)  And 1925 electoral roll shows Harry James Vernon and Sarah Amy Vernon together at 462 Hornsey Road (they remain at this address until at least 1929). 

Also there in 1925 are George James Louis Westley, Alice Whittington and George William Whittington.

There's a connection here with Amy Elizabeth Bolton's 1908 marriage, in that George William Whittington was one of her witnesses (the other was Mary Ann Langsworthy). Turns out GWW was Sarah Amy's brother-in-law, having married her sister Alice Cook in 1900.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Vernon in Islington
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 07 March 13 15:14 GMT (UK) »
Oh excellent. Thanks.  Presumably, Harry George William Vernon would have been under 21 so would not appear there even if he is with them.

Has anyone found a birth or marriage for Harry James Vernon, or even found him on a census?



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Re: Vernon in Islington
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 07 March 13 15:45 GMT (UK) »
This may be a complete red herring but the sheer number of aliases amuses me :D

Probate calendar 1942

THOMPSON Harry Stantiford or WESTON Harry Joseph or VERNON Harry James or ASHCROFT Harry or WOODS James or ARMITAGE Philip or GORDON Henry Esdaile of 40 Grosvenor Road Chiswick London died 8 February 1942. Probate Llandudno 3 December 1942 to Barclays Bank Limited. Effects £12755 9s 1d.

(Death reg as Harry S THOMPSON aged 64, Mar qtr 1942 Brentford).
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Vernon in Islington
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 07 March 13 15:51 GMT (UK) »
Oh my! :o

Why on earth would he have needed so many aliases?  I think that might be a will to get hold of even if turns out to be the wrong Harry!
That would explain not being able to find a birth though.  Going to see if any of those names appear marrying any form of Sarah Amy Cook or Bolton.

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Re: Vernon in Islington
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 07 March 13 15:52 GMT (UK) »
I'm not convinced Sarah Amy was free to marry as we have not killed off George Edwin Bolton yet. Hmmm...
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Vernon in Islington
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 07 March 13 15:54 GMT (UK) »
True. Divorce maybe?
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Re: Vernon in Islington
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 07 March 13 16:01 GMT (UK) »
True. Divorce maybe?

Maybe - though nothing obvious is coming up in the National Archives' J77 catalogue and I'd have thought if there was a remarriage it would have been more recent than the 19 years claimed by (Sarah) Amy for her current marriage in 1911 as found by you.

I suppose another possibility to consider is that George Edwin Bolton and Harry James Vernon were one and the same person.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Vernon in Islington
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 07 March 13 16:07 GMT (UK) »
Just found a death for a George E Bolton in 1915 in Dartford.  The birth would be about right.
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Re: Vernon in Islington
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 07 March 13 16:11 GMT (UK) »
Just found a death for a George E Bolton in 1915 in Dartford.  The birth would be about right.

Isn't he a bit old (b abt 1863)? 

George Edwin Bolton claimed to be 20 when he married Sarah Amy Cook on 2 Oct 1887.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)