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Re: Thomas and Margaret Morris Morpeth
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 10 March 13 09:39 GMT (UK) »

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I cannot find a James and Hanna Morris in the 1871 or later census.


James and Hannah in 1871

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12 Top Cross Rows, Coxhoe, Co. Durham

James Morris, 31, coal miner , b. Bolton
Hannah, w, 35, b. Crewe
John Thos, s, 12, b. Bolton
Mary Ann, d, 10, b. -do-
Eliza, d, 6, b. Kelloe
Robert, s, 3, b. -do-
Margaret, d, 1, b. -do-


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Re: Thomas and Margaret Morris Morpeth
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 10 March 13 09:44 GMT (UK) »
I have  found the baptism of Thomas Morris, born 1873 in Wheatley Hill.

Easington District, Co. Durham
St Bartholomew, Thornley (by Kelloe)
7 Sept 1873 Thomas Morris, son of James and Hannah Morris of Wheaatley Hill. Born 13 August 1873


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Re: Thomas and Margaret Morris Morpeth
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 10 March 13 13:32 GMT (UK) »
This looks like a possible death for Hannah - age similar to census:

Hannah Morris, June q, 1877, Durham, v 10a p 206

and a possible marriage for James and Emma (note her surnames!):

Dec q, 1879, Easington, v 10a p 443 James Morris and Emma Summerson are on the same page. This fits with this parish record ~

St. Mary, Monk Hesleden
11 Oct 1879 James Morris, son of Robert Morris and Emma Summerson, widow, daughter of Thomas Jobling 

Emma  is recorded on the censuses with various places of birth!


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Re: Thomas and Margaret Morris Morpeth
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 10 March 13 15:45 GMT (UK) »
Hi again

This does look like the family now - your grandmother was nearly correct!

What we have is James Morris and Hannah Schofield marrying in Bolton RD, Mar quarter, 1858 (vol 8c page 261)

They stay in Bolton until at least the birth of Mary Ann (aged 10 in 1871). They then move to County Durham sometime before the birth of Eliza circa 1866 and are there until Hannah's death (probably in 1877). Thomas is born there on 13 August 1873.
James marries Emma Summerson nee Jobling 11 October 1879 and some time before the birth of Lavinia circa 1884 they move back to Lancashire, where they remain until at least 1891.
Thomas moves back to the North East and marries Margaret Miller in 1899. Thomas emigrates to the US 1910-11 and Margaret follows with the children in 1912.

It would have been best if you'd given the information about father James, mother Hannah and the Bolton connection in your original post as it would have saved a lot of time. However, we got there in the end  ;D

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PS - I believe that Wheatley Hill was at one time in the Lanchester Registration District of Co. Durham  (see http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/lanchester.html ) which might explain Louis's comment about Thomas being born in Lancashire!

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Re: Thomas and Margaret Morris Morpeth
« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 01 May 13 10:35 BST (UK) »
Hi  :D

I hope these notes on the Morris (Mores) family from Cupar, Fifeshire, might be helpful to you.

William Morris, John Morris and James Morris were the sons of William Mores (a weaver) and Isabel Bell who were married in Cupar, Fifeshire, Scotland on February 17, 1793. 

Their eldest known son William Morris (Mores) was born in Cupar in Fifeshire on December 01, 1792, and was baptised there on 3rd November, 1793.  It is likely that as a young man he migrated south across the Scottish border, possibly with his two brothers, James and John to find work in the Northumberland coalmines. On 31 March 1819, at St Peter's Wallsend, William, a pitman, married Isabella Elliott.  It was a short marriage and in 1820, after giving birth to two children, John and Elizabeth (possibly twins), Isabella died.  Her son John did not survive and her daughter Elizabeth lived only 5 years. On 25 August 1821, at St John, Newcastle, William married Mary Stephenson from Allendale.  Mary was the daughter of James Stephenson and Mary Reed and she was the younger sister of William's sister-in-law, Ann.  William and Mary had 10 children, Isabella and Mary (who did not survive), Alexander, William, James, Mary (2), Elizabeth (who died in infancy), Ann, John and Isabella (2).  William died in Bedlington on 12 December, 1862 and is buried in Bedlington Cemetery.  His wife Mary survived him by 10 years, and died in 1872 at West Sleekburn Colliery, Bedlington

John Morris was also born in Cupar, Fifeshire, where he was baptised on 10th March 1795.  His baptism record gives his surname as Morison.  Some time before 1819 John migrated south across the Scottish border to the Northumberland coalfields where he married Ann Stephenson, from Allendale on 12 April, 1819 at St Peter's, Wallsend.  Ann and John, a pitman, lived in Willington, Wallsend probably until about 1827.  William, Mary, James, John and Robert were all baptized at Wallsend and Joshua, Elizabeth, Ann and Thomas in Longbenton, Newcastle Upon Tyne. Ann Morris died in Bedlington about 21 November 1866, aged 70. John Morris also died in Bedlington and was buried on 12 July 1868 at St Cuthberts, Bedlington on 12 July 1868.  He was 74.

James Morris was probably born about 1796 in Cupar though no baptism record has been found. He married Hannah Gray at Christ Church, Tynemouth, Northumberland, on 5 December 1818.  She was the daughter of Stephen Gray from Tynemouth and Hannah Makin from Sheffield. During their early married life, James worked as a pitman.  The birth records of his 5 older children give James and Hannah's abode as Willington, so it is likely that James was a coal miner at Willington Colliery at least until 1830.  James and Hannah had 4 sons, Stephen, James, John and William, and 4 daughters, Isabella Bell, Elizabeth, Hannah Mary (who died in infancy) and Hannah Maken.  Their youngest and eldest daughters are named after their grandmothers. After the birth of their 5th child, Elizabeth, the Morris family relocated to Preston, Tynemouth and they are on record there in the 1841 and the 1851 census.  James's occupation in both censuses is recorded as a gardener and in the 1851 census, he is a "Gardner, 5 acres, employing 2 labourers".



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Re: Thomas and Margaret Morris Morpeth
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 01 May 13 10:43 BST (UK) »
Thomas Morris who was baptised at Newcastle on Tyne on October 16, 1841, was the son of John Morris and Ann Stephenson. Thomas, a coal miner married Elizabeth Laws in Morpeth in Jun 1866. Their children were John, Ann, Mary Elizabeth, Joshua, Thomas and James.  Elizabeth died in 1887. Do you have a marriage record for your Thomas and Margaret?

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Re: Thomas and Margaret Morris Morpeth
« Reply #24 on: Friday 03 May 13 09:11 BST (UK) »
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This match's what I have found. Thanks for all your help. I was having trouble proving the Hanna was Thomas mother.

My grandmother didn't really talk about her family she left, but she thought that she could go back and everything would be just like it was when she left.

If any one ever comes across any pictures of Thomas I would love to have a copy. I have the only existing picture of Thomas..

Thank you again for all the work you did. I appreciate it very much