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Re: Thomas and Margaret Morris Morpeth
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 06 March 13 10:41 GMT (UK) »
This looks like the family in 1871

1871
Bedlington Colliery, Bedlington
RG10/5165/161/25

Thomas Morris, 30, coal miner, b. Camperdown
Elizabeth, w, 25, b. Seghill
John R, s, 4
Ann, d, 3
Mary E, d, 2
Joshua, s, 1

All children b. Bedlington

Trying to trace back the Morris family in the censuses as far as poss

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Re: Thomas and Margaret Morris Morpeth
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 06 March 13 11:06 GMT (UK) »

1861
26 Second Colliery Row, Bedlington
RG9/3873/7/7

John Morris, 67, coal miner, b. Scotland :D
Ann, w, 67. b. Allendale
Ann, d, unm, b. Wallsend
Thomas, s, unm, 20, coalminer, b. Longbenton (Camperdown is just north of Killingworth so would fit!)**
John, gds, 11, b. Bedlington

1851
HO107/2418/432/20

Bedlington Colliery, West Sleekburn
John Morris, 54, coal miner , b. Fifeshire, Cooper (Cupar)  - will check him out in Scotland!
Ann, w, 54, b. Allendale
William,s, 31, coal miner, b. Wallsend
John,s, 25, -do-. b. -do-
Joshua, s, 23, -do- b. All Saints, N/c on Tyne
Elizabeth, d, 20. b.-do-
Ann, d, 14, b. -do-
Thomas, s, 10, b. Benton
John, s, 1, b. Bedlingtom
Mary A Thompson, 14

1841
Longbenton
HO107/822/3/14/21

John Morriss, 45, b. S
Ann, 45
William, 21
Mary, 19
James, 18
John, 17
Robert, 15
Joshua, 13
Elizabeth, 11
Ann, 5
Thomas, 7 mths


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Re: Thomas and Margaret Morris Morpeth
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 06 March 13 11:38 GMT (UK) »
Could this be the marriage of John Morris and Ann Stephenson, 12 Apr 1819, Wallsend

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added - The marriage is showing on the Durham BTs on Family Search - Northumberland: Walsend:  1813-1833: page 166

Unfortunately no  info about parents. Witnesses were Joseph Mordue
and James Jameson, who look like church wardens as they have signed a few entries.
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Re: Thomas and Margaret Morris Morpeth
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 06 March 13 12:34 GMT (UK) »
This baptism looks as if it could fit with Ann Morris nee Stephenson's age on the censuses:

St Peter and Allenheads Chapelries, Allendale 3 April 1796
Ann Stephenson d/o James Stephenson and Mary

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Re: Thomas and Margaret Morris Morpeth
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 06 March 13 17:05 GMT (UK) »
Hi Morris110941

I see you were on about an hour ago and I do hope you've found what I've put up of use  :)

Re: Thomas Morris and wife Elizabeth (parents of Thomas Morris b. 1873), shown on the 1871 and 1881 in Bedlington.

This marriage looks interesting:

Jun q, 1866, Morpeth vol 10b p 486. Thomas Morris and Elizabeth Cowans and Elizabeth Laws are on the same page.

There's an Elizabeth Laws on the earlier censuses born Earsdon, which is not far from Seghill. NO Elizabeth Cowans so far.  Will report back if I can get more confirmatory info.


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Re: Thomas and Margaret Morris Morpeth
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 06 March 13 19:54 GMT (UK) »
Here is what I know about Thomas Morris. From his tombstone it says he was born in 1873. I have a note from a cousin that her father wrote that says Thomas Morris was born in Lancashire England in 1873. I have a copy of the marriage certificate which lists his fathers name as John Morris a coal miner, also an old baby book that says his mothers name was Hanna. I have never found any records to match that.

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Re: Thomas and Margaret Morris Morpeth
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 09 March 13 11:26 GMT (UK) »
Here is what I know about Thomas Morris. From his tombstone it says he was born in 1873. I have a note from a cousin that her father wrote that says Thomas Morris was born in Lancashire England in 1873. I have a copy of the marriage certificate which lists his fathers name as John Morris a coal miner, also an old baby book that says his mothers name was Hanna. I have never found any records to match that.

I really think that some of the information that you have is wrong. You say in your Subject line that he was born Morpeth which is in Northumberland! Do please read through what I've found - it all seems to be the same family and I spent a good while doing the searching. 

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Re: Thomas and Margaret Morris Morpeth
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 10 March 13 01:10 GMT (UK) »
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I must apoligize, I wrote his fathers name was John, but the marriage certificate says his name was James. Also Morpeth is where they were living prior to their immigration to the United States. According to Thomas's obituary they list that he had a brother named John Morris that lived in Lincoln, Illinoies, USA.
I found a James Morris born 1840 Bolton, Lancashire. He married Hanna Schofield in 1858 and they had a son named John Morris 1859. In 1871 he married Emma Calderley, and they had a son named Thomas Morris In 1873, they lived in Bolton Lancashire That would all match including a note I have from the youngest son Louis that said his father was born in Lancashire. The one exception, my grandmother Margaret "Miller" Morris wrote in my baby book that Thomas's mothers name was Hanna. I cannot find a James and Hanna Morris in the 1871 or later census. I believe my grandmother was mistaken, but don't know how to prove it.   

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Re: Thomas and Margaret Morris Morpeth
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 10 March 13 08:19 GMT (UK) »
Hi again

There's not much that I can add to my previous posts on this thread. To summarise:

If this is your family in 1920:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MF6S-3N6#  (Reply #6)

Then this is them travelling to US (Reply #5) :
Passenger list of Arabic - Liverpool to Boston (dept. 10 Sept 1912) record

Margaret Morris, hswife, 33
Mary, child, 10
James, child, 7
Jacob, child, 4 1/2 (?)

and if so, this is the only  family that matches in 1901 (Reply #3):

RG13/4833/50/11
Front Street, Walker Terrace, Bedlington
Jacob Miller, 32, coal miner, b. Bedlington
Catherine, w, 27, b. Spennymoor, Co Durham
Ellen, d, 6, b. North Shields
Peter, s, 2, b. Bedlington
Catherine, d, 9 days, b. -do-
Thomas Morris, b in l, 28, coal miner, b. Bedlington
Margaret, s in l, 21, b. Pegswood
Susanna , niece, 2, b. Bedlington


Note that Thomas is down as born Bedlington, Northumberland.  Also, they are staying with the Millers.


See this link: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XWMR-H1J

And see the online tree for daughter Mary Morris, b.c. 1902, which can be viewed via Mundia

http://www.mundia.com/gb/


Is this the family that you think he belongs to:

1881
RG11/4946/109/42
183 West Chapel Row, Quebec, Esh, Co. Durham
James Morris, 41, coal miner, b. Bolton
Emma, w, 34, b. Bolton
Eliza, d, 16, b. Kelloe, Co. Durham
Robert, s, 13, coal miner, b. -do-
Margaret, d, 11, b. Wheatley Hill, Co Durham
Thomas, s, 8, b. -do-
Elizabeth, A, d, 4, b. -do-
Medilda (?Matilda) , d, 5 mths, b. Quebec, Co. Durham

If so, the family are back in Lancashire in 1891 at RG12/3422/69/32  (Emma down as born Northumberland)

 



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