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1851/1861/71/81 census look up please - Yorkstone
« on: Monday 06 June 05 08:47 BST (UK) »
Hello,
I wonder if someone could help me please. Trying to find Peter Yorkstone who was born about 1847 in Scotland (I dont know where). He married Isabel.  They had four children. The first being born in 1882.

Trying to find any other family members.

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Re: 1861/71/81 census look up please - Yorkstone
« Reply #1 on: Monday 04 July 05 23:03 BST (UK) »
Hi Lisa
The IGI has the birth/Christening of a Peter YORKSTON in 1846:
PETER YORKSTON 
Birth:  29 AUG 1846   & Christening:  06 SEP 1846   Larbert, Stirling, Scotland
Father:  ALEXANDER YORKSTON  & Mother:  ANN DONALDSON   

The 1881 CD set soundex' the name as YORSTON also - actually I think there are more of this spelling than there are YORKSTON/E.

I am happy to look up the 1881 Census for you - but first to try help narrow him down: - do you know where Peter was just before he married Isabel? Or where they married? Her maiden name? Peter's occupation?  Also, the names of their children (even tho they were born 1882 & after - they can still be clues in locating the parents and grandparents).

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Anne
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Re: 1861/71/81 census look up please - Yorkstone
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 03 August 05 09:11 BST (UK) »
all i know is he had a son called Thomas Ramsey Yorkstone born 1883 in Boston, Linclonshire.
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Re: 1851/1861/71/81 census look up please - Yorkstone
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 04 August 05 12:06 BST (UK) »
Hi.
Found Peter in 1891 and 1901 living in Lincolnshire. This is it below. But if anyone has the 1881 census or others would be most helpful.

1891
RG12 2574 47 22
1 Blue Street Boston Lincs
Peter Yorkstone head 44 iron brass founder Scotland
Isabella wife 41 Scotland
Mary J dau 9 Boston Lincs
Thomas R son 7 Boston
Annie D dau 4 Boston
Harold M son 2 Boston

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Re: 1851/1861/71/81 census look up please - Yorkstone
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 04 August 05 16:15 BST (UK) »
In my own tree I've come across several variants on YORKSTON[E], all in the Edinburgh area extending out to West Lothian, including the dropping of the "K" and the "K" & "T".

A problem in the records is that YORSON is a surname in its own right, - from Orkney or Shetland if my memory serves me correctly (or was it Ireland?).

I have an Alexander Yorkston b 1814 in Larbert, but he married Catherine (Kitty)
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Re: 1851/1861/71/81 census look up please - Yorkstone
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 04 August 05 22:46 BST (UK) »
Hi Lisa
Have found Peter in C81, under spelling: JORKSTONE, same place as 1891. It indicates he owned the business he worked at and employed 1 man? ALso shows his niece with them, so following her may help you get back further on Peter  :D
There is a likely IGI birth for her in Haddington, ELN on IGI.



   Dwelling:   1 Blue St
   Census Place:   Boston, Lincoln, England
   Source:   FHL Film 1341767     PRO Ref RG11    Piece 3218    Folio 31    Page 22
   Marr   Age   Sex   Birthplace
Peter JORKSTONE   M   34    M   Scotland
   Rel:   Head
   Occ:   Master Of Ironfoundry 1 Man
Isabella JORKSTONE   M   31    F   Scotland
   Rel:   Wife
Margaret JORKSTONE       6    F   Scotland
   Rel:   Neice

Cheers
Anne
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Re: 1851/1861/71/81 census look up please - Yorkstone
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 04 August 05 23:38 BST (UK) »
Hi Again Lisa
Here is C81 details of Thomas YORKSTONE/Euphemia McCREA/McCREE, parents of the IGI Margaret born 1874 Haddington.  You will see that the daughter Margaret is with them here.  It could still be that Margaret was listed twice - once with uncle Peter in Lincoln (where she actually was) and once with parents (where she was not, but they counted her in anyway either in error, or in mis-understanding that they should  not state not-present children to the Census taker) - I have come across this more than once in Censii. What is interesting here is that Thomas' father is in the house.

Dwelling:   Ayres Wynd
   Census Place:   Prestonpans, Haddington, Scotland
   Source:   FHL Film 0224027     GRO Ref    Volume 718    EnumDist 4    Page 15
   Marr   Age   Sex   Birthplace
Thomas YORKSTON   M   34    M   Dunbar, Haddington, Scotland
   Rel:   Head
   Occ:   Maltman
Euphemia YORKSTON   M   30    F   Isle Of Skye, Inverness, Scotland
   Rel:   Wife
   Occ:   Maltmans Wife
Margaret YORKSTON       6    F   Haddington, Haddington, Scotland
   Rel:   Daur
   Occ:   Scholar
John A. YORKSTON       4    M   Haddington, Haddington, Scotland
   Rel:   Son
Daniel YORKSTON       2    M   Prestonpans, Haddington, Scotland
   Rel:   Son
John YORKSTON   W   68    M   Innerwick, Haddington, Scotland
   Rel:   Father
   Occ:   Labourer

The other (I think more likely) scenario of course is that the Margaret with Peter in Lincolnshire is not the daughter of Thomas above :--as follows:--

There is another Margaret YORKSTONE born 1873 on IGI: to Alexander YORKSTONE and Ann HAMILTON. This is probably the C81 family:
Dwelling:   4 Malvern Place
   Census Place:   Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
   Source:   FHL Film 0203638     GRO Ref    Volume 644-3    EnumDist 21    Page 17
   Marr   Age   Sex   Birthplace
Alexander YORKSTON   M   39    M   Larbert, Stirling, Scotland
   Rel:   Head
   Occ:   Carter
Ann YORKSTON   M   36    F   Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
   Rel:   Wife
Agnes YORKSTON       13    F   Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
   Rel:   Daur
   Occ:   Millworker
Ann YORKSTON       12    F   Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
   Rel:   Daur
   Occ:   Scholar
Janet YORKSTON       10    F   Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
   Rel:   Daur
   Occ:   Scholar
Alexander YORKSTON       4    M   Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
   Rel:   Son
Isabella YORKSTON       1    F   Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
   Rel:   Daur

Their daughter Margaret, not present and assuming she was still living, would be abt 7 going on 8, at C81 time. It could be the age was given as 8 and misread as 6, and she was with her uncle Peter in Lincoln.  Or that Uncle got it wrong :D .  Noting that Alexander above  was born in Larbert Stirling (as was the Peter I found in 1846)

The Lanark location of the family also sort of ties in with the IGI Marriage 1871 in Blythswood Lanark of a Peter YORKSTON & Isabella BELL......I couldn't find that couple in C81 Scotland, lending more weight to the idea that it's them in Lincolnshire.

FREEBDM gives these Boston  YORKSTON/E:
http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl
Alexander YORKSTON died Jun Qtr 1873
Annie Donaldson YORKSTONE born Sep Qtr 1886
Thomas Ramsay YORKSTONE born Sep Qtr 1883
Herbert YORKSTONE born  & died  Boston 1875 Jun Qtr.
May Isabel YORKSTONE married Dec Qtr 1905

The daughter Annie's middle name Donaldson is the maiden name of the mother of Peter YORKSTON born 1846 Larbert.

The IGI gives a number of children to the Alexander YORKSTON & Ann DONALDSON of Larbert Stirling besides a Peter & Alexander;  another son was John Donaldson YORKSTONE: and this is likely him in C81:
   Dwelling:   19 Rosemount St
   Census Place:   Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
   Source:   FHL Film 0203639     GRO Ref    Volume 644-3    EnumDist 50    Page 14
   Marr   Age   Sex   Birthplace
John YORKSTON   M   36    M   Larbert, Stirling, Scotland
   Rel:   Head
   Occ:   Painter
Ann YORKSTON   M   33    F   Govan, Lanark, Scotland
   Rel:   Wife


There is a good photo of Blue Street, Boston, Lincs here (last one on page)
http://www.bostonuk.com/gallery/neilwright/index4.htm

Cheers
Anne
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Re: 1851/1861/71/81 census look up please - Yorkstone
« Reply #7 on: Friday 12 August 05 09:10 BST (UK) »
hi. Where did u get all these igi records from? I cant find them.

Have you got any info on the 1851/61/71 census.

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Re: 1851/1861/71/81 census look up please - Yorkstone
« Reply #8 on: Friday 12 August 05 13:11 BST (UK) »
Hi Lisa
Sorry, I have no access to any census other than 1881. I know 1871 is available on ScotlandsPeople, as well as 1881, 1891 and 1901.  Bits and pieces of Census 41, 51 and 61 are all over web to varying degrees. But perhaps some other rootschatter will be more able to advise on those years.

Do you mean you cant's find the specific records I found on IGI, or can't find IGI itself?  http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=igi/search_IGI.asp&clear_form=true

Make sure your are searching in the "International Genealogy Index" not "Ancestral File"  or Pedigree File"

I'll PM you my email address  - if you are still having trouble with IGI, email me and I'll be happy to help you  :)

Cheers
Anne
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

"Now that we're all here, I'm not sure if we're all there...."

 Entre los individuos, como entre las naciones, el respeto al derecho ajeno es la paz
 Among individuals, as among nations, respect for the rights of others is peace
    ~Benito Juarez (1806-1872)