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Re: Rescued - Grispini - Bariton(e) Solo
« Reply #27 on: Friday 22 March 13 22:02 GMT (UK) »
And the article does say he was Italian  :-\

If we get lead back to Italy, how do we search there  :o

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Re: Rescued - Grispini - Bariton(e) Solo
« Reply #28 on: Saturday 23 March 13 00:23 GMT (UK) »
I had to go back and properly read the article on Signor H. Crispini (the link in Reply #18).

The article is dated March 29, 1905. It states Crispini "came to Sumter (South Carolina) several months ago and recently opened the New York Restaurant". It goes on to say he "is a naturalized American citizen, came to the country thirty years ago and has travelled extensively......in the entire country".

So, he probably lived any number of places in the U.S. but if he's opened a restaurant in Sumter, South Carolina in 1905 that might be a starting pointing to get an address for him.

It would also seem that he immigrated from Italy in the mid-1870's - which works well with the photograph style mentioned by PrueM.

I don't know my way around U.S. records but is there a census that would cover Sumter around 1905?

England:  Archer, Bailey, Bates, Blower, Bosworth, Court, Hicklin, Orton, Palmer, Robbins, Sedgwick, Smith, Stevenson, Stone, Varnam, Wakelin, Walker
Canada:  Archer, Walker, Spencer, Shepherd
Australia:  Taplin
South Africa:  Risley

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Re: Rescued - Grispini - Bariton(e) Solo
« Reply #29 on: Saturday 23 March 13 01:24 GMT (UK) »
I've gone back to the Chronicling America website and have gathered a bit more information but have left the links out this time.

-- The H. Crispini who opens the restaurant in Sumter is from Ferrandina, Basilicata, Italy

-- There is a Prof. Hubert Crispini of New York and formerly trombone soloist with Gilmore's band that has opened a barber shop in Manning, Clarendon County, South Carolina in May, 1905.

-- Herbert Crispini, son of Mr. H. Crispini who recently moved from New York was involved in an accidental shooting (May, 1905)

- Prof. Chevalier Crispini, late with Gilmore's band - but now of Bismark, North Dakota (Sept, 1908)

Actually looking through all the references and all the various name combinations - Professor / Chevalier / Hubert / Umberto / Crispini - I wonder if there is more than one Crispini. If he is the same man he certainly got around  :)
England:  Archer, Bailey, Bates, Blower, Bosworth, Court, Hicklin, Orton, Palmer, Robbins, Sedgwick, Smith, Stevenson, Stone, Varnam, Wakelin, Walker
Canada:  Archer, Walker, Spencer, Shepherd
Australia:  Taplin
South Africa:  Risley

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Re: Rescued - Grispini - Bariton(e) Solo
« Reply #30 on: Saturday 23 March 13 14:37 GMT (UK) »
There's a Hubert Crispinni in the 1900 Census who was born Italy, immigrated in 1875, lived in New York, and had a son Hubert, but the elder Hubert was listed as blacksmith.    ???

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MS2S-JGH


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Re: Rescued - Grispini - Bariton(e) Solo
« Reply #31 on: Saturday 23 March 13 16:22 GMT (UK) »
... but have left the links out this time.
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Hi sami,

If you post links like this it looks really professional:

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it comes out like this:

A bit about what it points to.

Greatly appreciate your research.

Have we got an idea of date of birth? PrueM suggested an 1870s date for the photo and he looks in his 20s/30s so a DOB of around 1840-50? Do any of the census entries concur? Does anyone agree or have other ideas? Hubert (New York - Blacksmith) looks like he was born 1857 so that would fit. Perhaps he was a solo baritone in his spare time.

It's always possible we have a Crispini Sr. who was a baritone, Crispini Jr. who was the musician. The two photos could be father and son of course.

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Re: Rescued - Grispini - Bariton(e) Solo
« Reply #32 on: Saturday 23 March 13 17:06 GMT (UK) »
The younger Hubert seems to wind up in Maryland by the 1910 census, served overseas in WWI, and worked mainly in motor works and on the railroads.

He seems to have married between 1930 & 1940 and the 1940 census has him only with his wife, so I'm guessing there likely weren't children.

This seems to be his burial:  http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Crispini&GSiman=1&GSst=22&GRid=536928&

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Re: Rescued - Grispini - Bariton(e) Solo
« Reply #33 on: Saturday 23 March 13 22:41 GMT (UK) »
The 1900 census mentions a sister to Hubert Jr. called Isabel and a brother to Hubert Sr. called Antonio. Do they show up in a traceable way at all?

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Re: Rescued - Grispini - Bariton(e) Solo
« Reply #34 on: Sunday 24 March 13 14:29 GMT (UK) »
I don't see definite matches for either of them or Hubert's wife.

There is a match for son Hubert (listed as Herbert) on the New York City birth index:

http://italiangen.org/nycbirthresults.asp?kind=exact&Esurname=crispini&Efirst=&CertNbr=&StartYear=&EndYear=&B1=Submit

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Re: Rescued - Grispini - Bariton(e) Solo
« Reply #35 on: Monday 25 March 13 15:18 GMT (UK) »
Found one possibly interesting tidbit:

1908 Lewistown, Montana city and Fergus County directory
Crispini, Hubert B., music teacher, 106 1/2 E. Main, rooms at the same address