Hyde family, Middlesex

[Lucy2]

1891 - London - St Pancras - Kentish Town

HYDE

- Henry - head - 46 - marr. - occupation, decorator -- born City [as in, City of London]
- Ros ...?  [difficult to decipher  .. and shows on index as "Nosh" !   ]
    45 - born Westminster
- Amy - dau - 13 - b. St Pancras
- Fred - son - 11 - b. ditto
- Thomas - son - 9  [bc 1882 ??  - age incorrect ?? ] - b. St. Pancras
- Hurbert * [spelling ? ]  [poss. should read "Herbert" ? ] - son - 6 - b.  Islington

[^  Square brackets above are my additions. ]

*  Herbert HYDE - bc 1885 was the nineth child of Henry William and Rosina HYDE : 

    ~  Lu

[Lucy2]

Births - SEP - 1885

HYDE - Herbert Charles

Reg'd.    Islington (Middlesex)              

[Lucy2]

Daniel William and Rosina were our grandparents and came to N.Z. early 1900s.
He died in 1956 and she in 1942.

Hi Pamela-anne

(On your NZ thread) I queried the name Rosina which you had linked with Daniel William.
[Please just ignore that now.   ]

From New Zealand records I found that Daniel's wife was in fact named "Rosa Fanny" -- and from UK records that her maiden name was "ANDREWS" - they wed in 1906.
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I don't know whether you have the names of Rosa Fanny's parents ?

In 1881 Rosa F. ANDREWS - 3 - born Hampstead is living with her parents (Robert and Rosella ANDREWS) and four siblings, at Hampstead.
Robert ANDREWS (her father) - aged 28 - has the occupation "clerk" (though part of that entry has been struck out).

Of more interest though, is that Rosa has an older brother, Robert W. ANDREWS [bc 1871 ] and on finding the London marriage of Daniel William HYDE's sister - Rosina Maria HYDE (m. 1895) - , it appears that she has married Rosa Fanny ANDREWS', brother Robert.      [Confused ? ] 

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[Lucy2]

Marriage - Parish Church of St. Thomas', Camden Town (London) - 31 August 1895

Rosina Maria HYDE - 20
Father:  Henry William HYDE, builder

Robert William ANDREWS - 24 - occupation, clerk
Father:   Robert ANDREWS, Accountant*

Witnesses:    John FRITZ /  Amy HYDE  / Robert ANDREWS

[*  Robert ANDREWS (father) in 1881 - occupation shown as "clerk". ]
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I'll take a look tomorrow for more on family of Rosina Maria and Robert William ANDREWS.

[Lucy2]

Link to thread on New Zealand board    >>

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,638250.0.html

[ciderdrinker]

Good Morning -Cidedrinker again
First can I say sorry but I think I got the wrong Frederick Hyde as of course he is Frederick Charles.
Could he perhaps have gone to New Zealand? I can't find him in England and there is a Frederick Charles carpenter at Heriot ,Otago with his wife Elizabeth Christina in 1911 on the electoral register for New Zealand.
Herbert Charles  cashier married 20.8.1904  Noel park Annie Maud Hutchins 21  both 11 Cobham Road d of Henry Hutchins ,baker.No children by 1911.
Children of Rosina Andrews and Robert (d<1911) -Percy Reginald  Andrews 1896-26.5.1953 Dartford Kent (widow Dorothy Katherine),Kathleen E .A. 1899 and Rose Mary b.30.1.1901.There is another Elsie May bap 11.12. 1904 Tottenham ,11 Cobham Road,father Robert William deceased , in an orphanage with Rose Mary in 1911.
Ciderdrinker

[pamela-anne]

Thank you Lucy & Ciderdrinker for your help; it is appreciated.  Sorry I noted the incorrect name (Rosina) it should have been Rosa Fanny; what a mixup with too many similar sounding names.  I have enough info on Rosa's side - her parents were Robert Andrews and Rosetta Caroline nee Hill plus I have their parents.  I will pick up on that research once I've completed the Hyde search.
I have no idea Cider if Frederick Charles came to N.Z.  The younger son of Daniel and Rosa was named Frederick.
I have:  Daniel and Rosa Hyde (nee Andrews)     
            Henry William and Rosina Hyde (nee Fritz)  Need to sight certificate.
            Henry Ellis and Sarah Hyde (nee ??)                  ditto.
Have decided to try searching the free bmd. site or contact b.d.m. in Uk. for printouts as I need to be certain that I am following the correct line.
Pamela-anne

[ciderdrinker]

hi
Henry William Hyde full bachelor Grainer Groom st Henry Hyde Grainer
Rosina Fritz full spinster Pratt st John Fritz dead
wit J.A. Clarke and Christian(a) Fritz all signed were married 1.6.1867 at St Pancras.
Hope that helps a bit ,can't see where the other one comes in,what date,etc
Ciderdrinker

[ciderdrinker]

1851 census 32 Hereford St
John Fritz 40 baker Germany
Elizabeth 37 Saxlingham Norfolk
Rosina 8 Westminster
Christiana 6 London
Daniel 4 Marylebone
John 1 "
1861 56 High St Cambden Town John and Elizabeth with the 2 boys.
1871 Elizabeth 56 widow is a servant at The Priory High St Battersea.
John Fritz died Pancras June 1866 age 56 1b 23
Ciderdrinker