Where is, or was Eade?

[LizzieW]

Hi Libby - I did wonder if it was Caud Hill when I looked on Genuki for places close to Almondbury, Lockwood, Penistone etc. and saw that it was a hamlet in the parish of Almondbury.  So it makes sense for the parish record just to show Caud.  By 1868 it seems to have changed its name to Cold Hill, Almondbury.

I've done a Google translate from Latin to English and for 'eade' it gives 'said'.  I suppose that could be construed as said above, i.e. ditto.  The sound of the word is given as  'err di'

[libby9]

Old, Parish Registers written in Latin.

I suppose it is possible Eade was written with the meaning said, or ditto, but why would the word only be mentioned a few times as quoted by Jillruss?  Maybe Jill can tell us if it was the same incumbent each time?

Have you searched for an old map of Hudd's?  I'm not sure how far back online old maps go, but again I can look in my local Uni's stock (Leeds).

[dobfarm]

06-06   Edmundus Shaw et Maria Tunnecliffe de Eade vill - nupt

according to this link this Eade was in the (Vill) village of Almondbury

Not in link 'de carrs' Marsden ie (Now) Carrs road

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lachs/beaumont/SHAW.txt

[libby9]

Hi Dobs,

I think that confirms Eade is a place name and not a Latin word for ditto or said.  Don't you?

[LizzieW]

dobfarm - that makes sense if Eade was a hamlet in Almondbury - perhaps just on the edge or something.  However, what doesn't make sense is that the line reads  Elizabeth, filia de Samuelis Baylden de eade bapt eade.  I can see her father (and she) could come from Eade, but she wasn't baptised there, she was baptised at Almondbury, which is why somehow it makes sense for it to be the latin word eade meaning her father was from eade i.e. the place on the line above Lockwood and she was bapt. eade, ,i.e. the same date as on the line above.  I'll attach a small piece so you can decide what you think.  The month is August.

[dobfarm]

Almondbury parish register is not in Latin but old English and letters symbols used in Latin

Ie;- a R looks like a small n only capital size or cut the middle in the R < out- so it like a n with a wiggle on the right down stroke that does not meet the left up stroke.
 You need a list of the old type letters from West yorkshire archives service Wakefield-ask them to send a copy ( there maybe a small charge).

[Clever clogs]

Google translation has "de eade" translating to "concerning the same", so like others have said previously, effectively a ditto.

It makes perfect sense when you view the entry above and you see that particular entry concerns another family from Lockwood, baptised on the 27th.

I would also have thought that a placename would have been capitalised - these "eades" are both in lower case.

The image is very difficult to read, but you can see the word being repeated after some of the baptisms on that page, so this also suggests that it is being used as a ditto entry.

That's my two penn'orth!

[dobfarm]

de~ means  Same

it means de eate- part of the  (Same) Almondbury village

de eadem- by the same route; at the same time; likewise; same
de eate = de ~same - eate ~ be in the middle ~ - Vill ~Village

[libby9]

After further searching, I agree 'de eade vill.' means 'of the same place'.