Luke and Mary Madden nee Jenkins

[trenaf]

I have been trying to trace my Great Grandfather Thomas Patrick Madden and his parents Luke Madden and Mary Madden nee Jenkins. I have finally found Luke and Mary marriage certificate and I am waiting for it to be sent out. I have searched all the census records from 1881 with no luck of finding them. Thomas died in 1926 in Australia and was believed to be 45 years old however I think he may have been born 1878 rather than 1881 as first thought. I have no other family for  Thomas. I have no idea when his parents died. I believe Thomas went AWOL when he arrived in England during the war, possibly to see his parents. Luke and Mary were married in West Derby and stories from my grandmother Thomas was born in Liverpool. If anyone can help with this family I would sincerely appreciate it.

[crisane]

Is this birth reg what makes you think he could have been born 1878

Births June 1/4 1878
Thomas Patrick Madden W. Derby 8b/470

[gortonboy]

Hi,,,Can you tell us how you know his parents names?  and how do you know you his mothers maiden name was Jenkins? 

[garstonite]

www.liverpoolhistoryprojects.co.uk  Roman Catholic Marriages show that
1878  ref No 708 St James church,Bootle,
Luke Madden married Mary Ann Jenkins ....so although you thought that they married in West Derby - they in fact married in Bootle ...6 miles from West Derby - in this case West Derby was the registration office ..
hope this helps
allan
ADDED...www.lancashirebmd.org.uk
 1912 death for Luke Madden aged 72   N Preston NP/15/77  could this be your Luke ? ..was he born 1850/51 ...do you have him in 1881 census stating his age ?

[garstonite]

I have found in Bootle (where they married ) in 6 Tudor Court
Luke Madden aged 33 b Ireland
Mary Ann Madden aged 18 b england
no children - with the McCourt family and it says Luke is son in law - this would make Mary Ann a McCourt UNLESS Marys mother had re-married
can some kind soul have a look in 1881 census for Luke and Mary Ann OTHER than this transcription ??...this may be the wrong Luke /Mary Ann - but because they are  in Bootle , I think it could be our Luke /Mary Ann
allan...ps ...this record would have meant Mary Ann was 15 when she married Luke in 1878 and he would have been 30 ....cradle snatcher ...lol

[down-under]

Hello

  1871 Rg10/3834 folio 104 page 9 Walton  Bootle Lancashire
6 Tuder Ct

Peter McCourt age 42 ireland Dock Lab
Rebecca wife age 32 Ilframcombe Devon
Ellen M Jenkins dau age 14 Birkenhead Cheshire
Mary A Jenkins dau age 12 Birkenhead Cheshire
Catherine McCourt age 3 dau Bootle
James McCourt age 1 son Bootle
William McCourt age 1 son Bootle
Thomas Flanagan boarder Yorkshire
John Clark boarder Wales

1881

6 Tuder Ct
Peter McCourt age 47 he has aged only 5 years Ireland lab
Rebecca wife age 44Illfracombe Devon Milk Dealer
Mary Ann Madden dau age 18 maybe it should be 22 going on the 1871 census Birkenhead dau
Luke Maddon age 33 Ireland son in law
Catherine McCourt dau age 13
William MCcourt son age 11
James McCourt son age 11
Emily McCourt age 7 dau

Pam

[down-under]

1891 Rg12/2970 folio 22 page 37

3 Jersey Street
Peter MCourt age 60 Ireland Dock Lab
Rebecca wife age 54 Ilfracombe Devon
James son age 21 Postman rest born Bootle
William son age 21 Hairdressers assistant
Emily dau age 19
Thomas Madden grandson age 5

1891
32 Stafford Street

Luke Madden age 40 Ships Fireman ireland
Mary A wife age 29 rest born Liverpool
Mary dau age 9
Patrick son age 7
Catherine dau age 2

1901 Rg13/3460 folio 144 page 31 Bootle cum Linacre

3 Jersey Street
Peter McCourt age 69 Blacksmiths Striker ireland
Rebecca wife age 60 Ilfracombe Devon
William son age 31Hairdressers assistant Bootle

At No 5
Mary A Madden age 39 widow  all born Bootle
Mary dau age 19
Patrick son age 17 seasman?
Thomas son age 15 seasman?
Catherine dau age 11
Rebecca dau age 9
James Irlam boarder
Enoch Holden Boarder

Pam

[trenaf]

Thank you so much everyone who replied. I certainly can't thank you enough for helping. I have Thomas death certificate for 1926 Victoria Australia and his military records which state his mothers maiden name was Jenkins. You have all  given me some brilliant information here. Hopefully now I can move forward with this side of my family.

[garstonite]

Thanks Down Under ....I wasn`t sure if we had the right Luke and Mary Ann - you confirmed we had .
So Luke  died between 1891 - 1901 ? ....Ships Fireman = a Stoker ...I wonder if he died at sea ?
no sign of his death on freebmd 1891 -1901

allan