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Mary Williams born Wem Shrops 1837
« on: Monday 18 February 13 08:59 GMT (UK) »
Can anyone help please to find Mary Williams in 1841 and 1851?

Mary Williams was  born Wem, Shropshire in 1837 (between April and August). She married Robert Morris, a tinplate worker 28th December 1857 at St John's Church, Chester and her father was recorded as James and a labourer. I can find her in 1861, married with a daughter, Sarah Ann, living in Liverpool and have her death in 1862 age 25 and buried in Chester.

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Re: Mary Williams born Wem Shrops 1837
« Reply #1 on: Monday 18 February 13 09:22 GMT (UK) »
Hi Gill

Not a good match so far so I'm trying to work out where she was born from the 1861 - it looks like Weenm but it can't be. are you sure it's Wem  :-\

Ref is RG9/2685/100/50 for others who might be trying to help.

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(Added - no clues from marriage witnesses either  :( )
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Re: Mary Williams born Wem Shrops 1837
« Reply #2 on: Monday 18 February 13 09:39 GMT (UK) »
Because it seems nearer to Cheshire than others, this might be her in 1851. it doesn't help trace her family though:

HO107/1994/202/5
Church street, Ellesmere

A servant in the home of the Birds family

Mary Williams, servant, 14, general servant, b. Wem


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Re: Mary Williams born Wem Shrops 1837
« Reply #3 on: Monday 18 February 13 09:49 GMT (UK) »
There's this baptism:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JS1M-FDQ

Onibury is near Ludlow so  :-\

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Re: Mary Williams born Wem Shrops 1837
« Reply #4 on: Monday 18 February 13 09:55 GMT (UK) »
it looks like Weenm but it can't be. are you sure it's Wem 

It doesn't look like Wem to me either, but I can't think what else it might be.

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Re: Mary Williams born Wem Shrops 1837
« Reply #5 on: Monday 18 February 13 10:04 GMT (UK) »
There only seems to be one Mary Williams of the right age in Wem in the 1841 census

Aston, Wem (all born in county)

Thomas Williams 65 blacksmith
Mary Williams 40
Edward Williams 30
William Williams 17
Martha Williams 7
Mary Williams 5

HO107/902/1

Problem with the 1841 is there being no relationship listed but Mary might be the granddaughter of Thomas

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Re: Mary Williams born Wem Shrops 1837
« Reply #6 on: Monday 18 February 13 10:13 GMT (UK) »
I too had looked at the baptism in Onibury as a possibility. Interestingly, Robert after the death of Mary went to live in Stokesay with his new wife Elizabeth and had 2 children. He died in 1874 in Hereford and was allegedly a Station Master but is buried in Chester. Everyone's help is really appreciated. gillm

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Re: Mary Williams born Wem Shrops 1837
« Reply #7 on: Monday 18 February 13 10:42 GMT (UK) »
I've posted a clip of the census image on the deciphering and recognition board to see whether anyone can see an alternative to Wem.

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Re: Mary Williams born Wem Shrops 1837
« Reply #8 on: Monday 18 February 13 10:48 GMT (UK) »
Hmm not sure about that 1841 census heres the 1851

Aston, Wem

Mary Williams 69 head widow b Broughton Shrop farmer of 4 acres
Edward Willams 45 son widow b Wem blacksmith
William Williams 27 son b Wem blacksmith
Mary Williams 16 dau b wem
George Powell 19 b Wem apprentice

HO107/1995/161/33

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