1891 census lookup

[Gadget]

Hi Bleckie

She was alive in 1861 and she was an Isabella or a Mary so that couldn't be her death 

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[Gadget]

Family Search shows four children born in Perth to  the couple:

16 Feb 1859 Robert Thomson s/o John Pollock and Isabella Murray
13 Sept 1860 Samuel  s/o John Pollock and Isabella Murray
21 Nov 1861 Isabella d/o John Pollock and Isabell Maury
20 Sept 1863 John s/o John Pollock and Isabella Murray

added - also
Elizabeth in Perth  9 Aug 1865
Jane in Perth 2nd Sept 1868


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[Gadget]

I've just checked brother John's death cert - 1920 Bonhill. He never married. His mother is given as Isabella Pollock m.s. Murray.  The informant was Joseph Newton, brother in law.

Maybe she gave the wrong mother's name on her marriage cert - it did happen.

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[lindaswe]

hi brevitas & john thanks for the help again i have to go with your thoughts mary is isabella & i will carry on looking for them but while i got your attention can you help me with joseph newton he had got his brother henry newton living with him & he was born in treland i have found a birth for joseph newton born 1852 bonhill abt i also found christiana born 1849 bonhill also found another birth robert knox 1855 bonhill all of them had parents joseph newton & mary knox would it be worth getting the 1861 or 1871 census to see if henry is there & find out if joseph & mary were born ireland you have been really helpful & hope you can help me again regards lin

[Gadget]

Hi Lin

I think that this is the family in 1851.

Balloch, Bonhill

Newton
Joseph, hd, 37, Turkey Red Dyer's labourer
Mary, w, 35
Ellen, d, 18, employed at printfield
John, s, 16, calico printer's app
Richard, s, 14, engaged at printfield
Sarah, d, 16, -do-
Christina, d, 12
Henry, s, 11

All born Bonhill

Will investigate further re Henry, It might have been miswritten in 1891 or Joseph was playing games on the census form!

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[Gadget]

1861 has Joseph Mary and Henry  born Ireland ! Relatives staying with them as well. Will type it all out for you.

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1861
Burn Street, Bonhill

Newton
Joseph, hd, 49,   general labourer (printfield), b. Ireland
Mary, w, 46, b. -do-
Henry, s, 20, dyehouse labourer, b. Ireland
Sarah, d, 16, -cleaner (printwork), b. Bonhill
Christina, d, 12, stone girl (printwork), b. -do-
Joseph, s, 8, b. -do-
Alexander, boarder, mar, 46, general (printwork) lab, b. ireland
Esther, mar, 47, b. -do-
Jane, unm, 22, cleaner (printwork) labourer, b. -do-
John, unm, 20, general labourer (printwork), b. -do-


The ages of Sarah and Christina are the same as onthe 1851 - either an error on one or other or the first ones died and the named younger ones the same.  Alexander looks as if he might be a relative, with Esther his wife and Jane and John their children - only guessing here.

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[Gadget]

By 1871, Joseph had died and Henry is younger!

Charleston Ewings Land, Bonhill

Newton
Mary, hd, wid, 60, b. Ireland
Henry, s, unm, 25, printfield worker, b. -do-
Joseph, s, unm, 17, -do-, b. Balloch
Agnes McRaith, brder, 13, printfield worker, b. Rutherglen
Margt Kilpatrick (?), grddaughter, 2, b. Alexandria

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[lindaswe]

hi brevits thanks for help once again i am glad you found henry with joseph in the 1861 census but i really dont want to go to ireland but it looks like thats where im heading to not looking forward to it regards lin