1915 short service record Arthur Lloyd

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Ken I think Ady was referring to the photogrph, but you are saying that the Man Arthur Lloyd in WW1 is not the same man as in the 1911 cesus my Grandfather had children Lily, Beatrice, Mary, Isabella, I thought maybe he had joined up again giving a different age to get in.
Can you tell me more information on the Man in the WW1 record as researching military is new to me. He also was a Clerk which made me think he was my man.

I really need to be sure on this one as it has taken me many years to research this family as there is so little information on them.

Edna

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Hi Edna

Ady is right. They are different men. The one serving in the Liverpool Regiment during the Boer War gave his DoB as 1871. The ASC man from WW1 was born c1878. Also, the WW1 form gives the answer 'no' to any previous military service.

The Boer War veteran had older siblings Edward and Lily, and both his parents were dead by 1889. He is a widower living in Bootle in 1911. And his daughters do not match the children of the WW1 man.

Ken

Would have liked a reply just to confirm or deny if this is My Grandfather.
Perhaps other people may like to comment.

Family History research is such an ordeal and people really need a confirmation of their findings when others make it plain we have the wrong information.

[km1971]

Hi Edna

I was reinforcing the problems with the photograph with the documentation provided by the Boer War record, the 1911 Census and the WW1 record.

The 1911 Census has the same place of birth (Naini Tal) as the Boer War papers. So you can compare the wife and children in the 1911 Census with the WW1 papers and they are different. WW1 Arthur’s wife is E M Wedekind (m1904). FreeBMD says Mary Elizabeth Wedeking. It also gives him the middle name of Owen. The children are Arthur Leonard (b1906) and Mary Elizabeth (b1910)

Also I have just noticed that the signature of the Boer War man does not match the WW1 man.

So ‘your grandfather’ is not the man in the WW1 ASC papers, and unlikely to be the man in the photograph.

Ken

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Also the man in the photo will not have gone overseas until after Jan 1916 as there are no Stars visible in medals so any medal index cards to lads with 1914/15 Stars should be put to one side

Ady

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Thank you for all this valuable information and I can now set my records straight in the knowledge I have got my Grandfathers correct record for India and the WW1 Arthur is definitely not mine.


Edna