Richard Farmer b.1836(?) Stoke

[welshconway]

Eureka!!!! That's wonderful! Also found a reference to Richard Farmer in Merchant Navy Seamen's records that he was a sailor from 1845...sailor might be Tailor! This is getting v.interesting! Thanks a lot, Steve

[CaroleW]

That Richard was 47yrs old in 1861 and the children do not match those in 1871

You will find births on freebmd for John, Richard and Oscar - would suggest buying a copy of one of those birth certs to get Kates maiden name

[welshconway]

Will do..... thanks for the clarification.......he seems to have led a colourful life!

[CaroleW]

I can't find any marriage for him to Dorothy or Kate/Catherine but those 3 births above were all registered as Farmer and Walter was registered as Farmer in 1867 in Ashton under Lyne Lancs

[CaroleW]

Found this marriage

Marriages June qtr 1864 
Richard Farmer   Derby  7b    634
Kate Hallsworth   on same page

I don't know which birth cert you are going to send for but if it's Richards - make sure you send for the 1859 one and not the 1860 one.  The 1860 Richard is a different family

[welshconway]

Wow! That's great....I was wondering if he was even legally married.......but it could be the non-conformist thing.....can't find baptism references for the children either. I do remember a Hallsworth 2nd cousin living with the family in one census so it makes sense. The children John and Richard are born before 1864 so they must be from a previous marriage of Kate or maybe Richard.

[CaroleW]

They can't be from a previous marriage of Kate's as their births are registered as Farmer

[welshconway]

Oh-oh 3 wives! He's making my head spin...thanks for the help

[welshconway]

...the seaman wasn't him either...back to square one