Yes I tried using John and Richard but didn't find any thing in 1861. In 1901 his age is given as 71 so he could be Richard Farmer b.1831, Methodist baptism and parents Richard and Eliza. Eliza turns up in 1841 with 3 children in Staffs...Richard age 10. But I find no trace in 1851 and 1861, or any trace of a marriage to the first wife Kate who is 9 years his senior......i remember a family myth that someone went to Canada but can find no trace there either.