Richard Farmer b.1836(?) Stoke

[welshconway]

Please can anybody help me find Richard Farmer born 1836 or earlier Stoke on Trent. The last trace I have of him is 1871 as an iron moulder in Derby age 35. I'm wondering if he went abroad. Thanks Steve.

[CaroleW]

I see he was indexed as Farner in 1871 and had quite a number of children - all b Derbyshire except Richard snr and Walter

Have you tried searching using the childrens names

Richard   35
Kate 44
John   17
Richard 12
Kate 8
Albert Henry 6
Walter   4 b Ashton Lancs
Ernest   2
Oscar   under 1mth

[welshconway]

Yes I tried using John and Richard but didn't find any thing in 1861. In 1901 his age is given as 71 so he could be Richard Farmer b.1831, Methodist baptism and parents Richard and Eliza. Eliza turns up in 1841 with 3 children in Staffs...Richard age 10. But I find no trace in 1851 and 1861, or any trace of a marriage to the first wife Kate who is 9 years his senior......i remember a family myth that someone went to Canada but can find no trace there either.

[CaroleW]

1881 looks like he has re-married to Dorothy

Here's the reference  RG11 Piece 3398 Folio 25 Page 43

I used Oscar as my search criteria which turned up Oscar Farmer aged 10 b Derbyshire

[welshconway]

Sorry....I was working backwards...so with last trace I was meaning first trace.......I was interested in finding any sign of him before 1871......i.e. in 1861 and 1851......which might indicate that he is the John Farmer I found in 1841...or any marriage.

[CaroleW]

The last trace I have of him is 1871 as an iron moulder in Derby age 35. I'm wondering if he went abroad

That sounds as though you can't find him after 1871 and thought he may have emigrated

So to clarify:

You are looking for him on censuses 1841-1861
You are looking for his marriage to Kate

He is "married" to Dorothy in 1881 but there is no death in Derbyshire for a Kate or Catherine Farmer with her birthyear

[welshconway]

Yes.....sorry for the muddle!
I'm looking for him before 1871.
I wonder if he went abroad during that period before 1871 or if there's a reason for him not appearing in the censuses of 1851 and 1861.

[Mabel Bagshawe]

I wonder if Kate is known by another name? There is a job lot of baptisms on Familysearch on 5 Nov 1865 for John, Henry, Richard and Emma - children of Richard and Mary.

eg  https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NJNB-F8B

think this is the same couple on 1861 at RG 9, 2503, 51, 28, in the same parish as 1871. here Mary is 37 and Richard 47 - both born Mayfield, Staffs, along with Hannah, 9, Henry 3 and Richard 6 months. He's a tailor

[Mabel Bagshawe]

Scrap that - found them on 1871