John's youngest childs birth certificate that went into care will give John's name -if he had say John as his middle name-?? also may give a last known address or if John died months or still alive before the child was born etc. Mary may have died in childbirth ?
The date the children went into child care may be because both parent had died before that date
Dobby
I haven't got Ivy's (the youngest of John and Mary's children) birth certificate, but I do have the information from her marriage cert..
At St. Winifreds, Newton Heath, 30th Sept 1939, living at 54 Dean Street, Newton Heath, her father was listed as 'Jack' Seymour, deceased, former occupation laborer.