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Re: Electoral Roles in Failsworth 1906 to 1935
« Reply #54 on: Saturday 16 February 13 15:37 GMT (UK) »
I have the family living at 5 Ash Street in 1911 - don't recognize anybody??  :'(

Alfred Clare, Head, Married, 28 b.1883. Cop Packer in Cotton Mill, b. Manchester
Henrietta Clare, wife, 26, b.1885. b. Darwen, Lancashire
Jesse Clare, son 5, 1906 b. Failsworth, Lancashire
Alice Clare, daughter, 2. Failsworth, Lancashire
Beatrice Maria Welting - SIL 16, Card Room Hand, Cotton Mill. b.Darwen, Lancs.

I'll have along the street to see if there is anything else?
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Re: Electoral Roles in Failsworth 1906 to 1935
« Reply #55 on: Saturday 16 February 13 15:42 GMT (UK) »
I realised after I had posted.

I have just been looking through his army medical reports. It says rhumatism and something else that I can't make out. He was discharged from the army on medical grounds.


I noticed that it says that Mary Jane Ashworth was a spinster when she married.3-2-00 Prestwich?
Children
Harold
Herbert 20.11.01 Failsworth
Ivy 23.11.10 Failsworth dead
John 30.6.13 Failsworth
Thomas 27.10.16 Prestwich

Heather

Just noticed

Son Thomas 27.10.16 Prestwich


John P Seymour 53 (born 1883) Bury 8c 477 Deaths Jun 1936   


Civil Registration

The Register Office covering the Prestwich area is Bury.

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/LAN/Prestwich/
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Re: Electoral Roles in Failsworth 1906 to 1935
« Reply #56 on: Saturday 16 February 13 15:50 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Dobfarm

Your general comments rightly point out the difficulties with post 1911 research.

Failsworth Cemetery information has been found - see replies  5,6,11 and 21 here.

The Chronicle may help re death notice but as we have read here, Mary Jane was buried with her first husband and the children were then put into care. It would be reasonable then to assume that there would be no death notice by any other family member.

5 Ash Street was/is a small terraced house. He may have been lodging there but doesn't see to be in 1911- his name is not in the index.

It might be good to wait for that death certificate to see if he can be connected to that John Seymour.

You have a good point re the church records for baptisms in Newbiggin. Maybe Castana has tried or will look at that.

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Heywood I gave the Cem admin address more to send/ask/phone for a detailed plot map also grave owners billing records (who paid for an interment) that are different to grave interment records and location numbers
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Re: Electoral Roles in Failsworth 1906 to 1935
« Reply #57 on: Saturday 16 February 13 16:08 GMT (UK) »
I have the family living at 5 Ash Street in 1911 - don't recognize anybody??  :'(

Alfred Clare, Head, Married, 28 b.1883. Cop Packer in Cotton Mill, b. Manchester
Henrietta Clare, wife, 26, b.1885. b. Darwen, Lancashire
Jesse Clare, son 5, 1906 b. Failsworth, Lancashire
Alice Clare, daughter, 2. Failsworth, Lancashire
Beatrice Maria Welting - SIL 16, Card Room Hand, Cotton Mill. b.Darwen, Lancs.

I'll have along the street to see if there is anything else?

Thhe Clare's may have had lodgers 1913
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Re: Electoral Roles in Failsworth 1906 to 1935
« Reply #58 on: Saturday 16 February 13 16:12 GMT (UK) »
The army records say that Thomas was born Prestwich 1916 but his birth was registered Failsworth

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Re: Electoral Roles in Failsworth 1906 to 1935
« Reply #59 on: Saturday 16 February 13 16:14 GMT (UK) »

Heywood I gave the Cem admin address more to send/ask/phone for a detailed plot map also grave owners billing records (who paid for an interment) that are different to grave interment records and location numbers

Yes that would be interesting re ownership of the plot. There is possibly a fee now for that information. There is a general plot map online but not sure how knowing the location of the plot would help. He is the only person in the plot.

Interesting find re the death - there is a John Phillips Seymour though in 1891 in Ramsbottom  :-\

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Re: Electoral Roles in Failsworth 1906 to 1935
« Reply #60 on: Saturday 16 February 13 16:19 GMT (UK) »
Prestwich was the registration district which covered Failsworth.
Then Failsworth became Manchester North.
Now it is Oldham.

Prestwich district also went to Manchester.
Now it's part of Bury.

Just to keep us on our toes  :D
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Re: Electoral Roles in Failsworth 1906 to 1935
« Reply #61 on: Saturday 16 February 13 16:21 GMT (UK) »
Unfortunately, the burial record for Failsworth doesn't say who paid for the plot. Some of the other Oldham cemeteries give that information

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Re: Electoral Roles in Failsworth 1906 to 1935
« Reply #62 on: Saturday 16 February 13 16:39 GMT (UK) »
Unfortunately, the burial record for Failsworth doesn't say who paid for the plot. Some of the other Oldham cemeteries give that information

So, does that mean we won't be able to find that information?
Seymour: Swain: Nolan: Hague: Minshull: Evans: Jones: Roberts: Bailey: Oldham: Thorpe: Ashton: Short: Ollier: Edwards: Sharples: Fish: Johnson: Leech: Woodlington: Hatcher: Richardson: Young: Hadfield: Sidall: Stafford: Wild: Manchip: Hopkins: Holt: Howarth