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Re: Electoral Roles in Failsworth 1906 to 1935
« Reply #27 on: Thursday 14 February 13 23:55 GMT (UK) »
Can someone check the Wills calenders for a John Seymour Lancashire post 1914
What's that dobfarm?
Seymour: Swain: Nolan: Hague: Minshull: Evans: Jones: Roberts: Bailey: Oldham: Thorpe: Ashton: Short: Ollier: Edwards: Sharples: Fish: Johnson: Leech: Woodlington: Hatcher: Richardson: Young: Hadfield: Sidall: Stafford: Wild: Manchip: Hopkins: Holt: Howarth

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Re: Electoral Roles in Failsworth 1906 to 1935
« Reply #28 on: Friday 15 February 13 00:10 GMT (UK) »
Index to Wills

They give a brief detailed info in the index, its useful in two ways either your John if he left a Will or eliminating other John's as that were thought possible your John Seymour

They are on ancest*y.co.uk website

If your not a subscribed member of that website ? then you can use the the Ancest*y free library edition at any library that has public computer access -(Main town / city Libraries)
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Re: Electoral Roles in Failsworth 1906 to 1935
« Reply #29 on: Friday 15 February 13 08:50 GMT (UK) »
I had a quick look but couldn't find any John Seymour's at the time of his death.  ???
Seymour: Swain: Nolan: Hague: Minshull: Evans: Jones: Roberts: Bailey: Oldham: Thorpe: Ashton: Short: Ollier: Edwards: Sharples: Fish: Johnson: Leech: Woodlington: Hatcher: Richardson: Young: Hadfield: Sidall: Stafford: Wild: Manchip: Hopkins: Holt: Howarth

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Re: Electoral Roles in Failsworth 1906 to 1935
« Reply #30 on: Friday 15 February 13 11:21 GMT (UK) »
Good morning  :)

At the moment, Dobfarm, it does look to be the John who died in 1927 from the circumstances. He died in a hospital in Farnworth, Bolton area but buried in Failsworth. It is not certain because of the age difference but castana has sent for the certificate.
I fear that the certificate though may not be much help as he died in hospital so that would probably be the address and the informant perhaps a hospital employee!
What is frustrating is that there does not seem to be any trace of him pre his marriage and his war record. There are some John Seymour births in Northumberland in a rough time span but none registered in Morpeth which would be the registration district.  :-\

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Re: Electoral Roles in Failsworth 1906 to 1935
« Reply #31 on: Friday 15 February 13 18:20 GMT (UK) »
There maybe a obituary or a mention in the deaths in a local newspaper that mentions his wife or late wife, children etc or a headstone that may mention something?

What age was John on his marriage certificate
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Re: Electoral Roles in Failsworth 1906 to 1935
« Reply #32 on: Friday 15 February 13 19:01 GMT (UK) »
Hi Castana

I've known the GRO index to be wrong before as they did with my brothers death 1947 but they local register office had his death certificate.

The index at Morpeth local register offices are the original hand written book index and are seperate index to the National GRO at Southport copy

If you write or phone them to ask them check that date you have, they will ask you what info you have for John Seymour born 1885 ie;- his dad name John, army record birth date 1885 etc

This is the link and you need Morpeth register office where New Beggin BMD records are keep

Scroll down the page to Morpeth register office and telephone number in the link



http://www.northumberland.gov.uk/default.aspx?page=3480



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Re: Electoral Roles in Failsworth 1906 to 1935
« Reply #33 on: Friday 15 February 13 19:32 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for that, but I contacted Morpeth a couple of years ago and there was no John Seymour born on that day/year.
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One family member did think that he had changed his name. :(
So if he did have a different name and he lied about his age, I haven't got a clue where to go next, thats why I wondered if there might have been an obituary for Mary Jane and he might have got a mention?
Ive searched and searched for a John Seymour in the censuses and cannot find him! :(
How do I add an attachment? I can upload his wedding certificate?
Seymour: Swain: Nolan: Hague: Minshull: Evans: Jones: Roberts: Bailey: Oldham: Thorpe: Ashton: Short: Ollier: Edwards: Sharples: Fish: Johnson: Leech: Woodlington: Hatcher: Richardson: Young: Hadfield: Sidall: Stafford: Wild: Manchip: Hopkins: Holt: Howarth

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Re: Electoral Roles in Failsworth 1906 to 1935
« Reply #34 on: Friday 15 February 13 20:02 GMT (UK) »
This may help with attaching the image http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,130922.0.html
You can only attach a small part of it though.

There may be no need as you have told us everything though  :-\  Did they give the same address on the certificate?

I have also searched to no avail!  If he was born a Seymour-either to a single mother or a married couple there should be a registration.
If he was registered in another name and then mum married a Seymour he should be there also. Maybe that is what happened but in the censuses there is then no reference to Newbiggin!
I tried searching the 1911 free index but there doesn't seem to be anyone from Newbiggin living around Failsworth. It's a mystery at the moment.



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Re: Electoral Roles in Failsworth 1906 to 1935
« Reply #35 on: Friday 15 February 13 20:24 GMT (UK) »
They married at St. Johns Church, Failsworth 6 Feb 1913:
John Seymour, 27, a bachelor, collier, living at 5 Ash Street (which looks to be just off Oldham Road), his father John Seymour (deceased) was also given as a collier.
Mary Jane Sidlow, 30, a widow, Tenter, living at All Saints, Newton Heath, her father, James Ashworth, (deceased) a fitter.
The witnesses were: William Jones and Jane Richardson (who couldn't sign her name) :(
Seymour: Swain: Nolan: Hague: Minshull: Evans: Jones: Roberts: Bailey: Oldham: Thorpe: Ashton: Short: Ollier: Edwards: Sharples: Fish: Johnson: Leech: Woodlington: Hatcher: Richardson: Young: Hadfield: Sidall: Stafford: Wild: Manchip: Hopkins: Holt: Howarth