Electoral Roles in Failsworth 1906 to 1935

[castana1985]

Hi, I am trying to trace my husbands gt grandfather, who seems to be very allusive!
We can't find any birth certificate for him, but on his service records he gives it at 4 Aug 1885, Newbiggin, Northumberland.
He was a Getter, coal miner, on both his marriage cert in 1913, Failsworth and when he enlisted in 1914. He married Mary Jane Sidlow (nee Ashworth) and she had three children to her first husband, Frank Sidlow, who died in a mining accident.
Mary Jane and Frank were living at 488 Oldham Road, Failsworth in the 1901 census. Then at 14 Schofield Street, Failsworth, in 1911.
John Seymour was living at 5 Ash Road when he got married in 1913
Then Mary and John were living at 122 Oldham Road, Failsworth, in 1914 when he enlisted.
I just wondered if someone could fill in the missing years for John?

[heywood]

Hello,

Electoral rolls are searched by address rather than the name so it would be too difficult to trace him through those.

Do you have him anywhere before 1913? 
Did he stay with Mary Jane after his war service?

regards

heywood

[castana1985]

Hi Heywood,
Those are the only addresses that we have? Maybe check 122 Oldham Road, as this seemed to be where Mary Jane lived for several years.
It just seems really odd, as Mary was buried with her first husband, Frank, when she died.
No mention on her death certificate that John had already passed away, he was listed as a laborer at the local council.
He just seems to have disappeared!

[castana1985]

Just checked my notes and John was listed as living at 122 Oldham Road when his daughter was born in 1919 and Mary Jane died there in 1925, so it's really just to check that John was with her all those years and possibly beyond.

[heywood]

Who registered Mary Jane's death?

Is it on her death certificate that he is a council worker? When you say that there is no mention that he had already passed away - had he?

[heywood]

It does seem strange perhaps that Mary Jane was buried with her first husband but I see that there is an Ivy Sidlow also buried there. Free BMD has her age at death as 4 yrs so that would be one reason.

There is a John Seymour buried in Failsworth cemetery - aged 37 yrs in 1927. There is no one else in that grave.

The likely death seems to be registered in Farnworth Bolton which is odd. Do you know if that is him?

[heatherjulie]

Hi
The John Seymour in Failsworth Cemetery died in Peel Hall Hospital - a hospital for treating tuberculosis

Heather

[castana1985]

  wow that's great! I've not been able to find anything about John Seymour, apart from his marriage in 1913 and his army records.
I don't know if that is him, but I do know that his three children ended up in care after Mary Jane died.

[heywood]

It might be good then to get that death certificate for John Seymour.

If it is him, Mary Jane's burial was 31.12.1925 and his burial was 10.1.1927 so there was only a year between them and he may have been ill most of that time.

Here are the details:
March quarter 1927       Bolton volume  8c   page 382

Does he give a father's name on his marriage certificate?